Letters to the Editor
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to ShawnM
Check out ProudTexasGirl's posts, and tell me that NO ONE in the "Hillary Camp" has not spread racist poison.
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Tom Payne: just sit there and be a vulgar
pyschopath.
Nobody cares about that drivel you're trying to pass off as logic.
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Hillary Lost Years Ago, No Matter What Happens in Pennsylvania
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/carpenter/048
And that, in my opinion, has always been Hillary's real inevitability. She doomed herself not a few months ago by failing to put Obama away in an early offensive, but in 2002 by her own voice -- by her own hand, so to speak -- when she announced "aye" to the Iraq war. It was then, in October of that year, on the 11th of that month, that she sowed the seeds of her own political destruction and sealed her fate.
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to ShawnM
Read your own posts about your incessent "Muslim" unsubstantiated innuendos, such as this:
"While Obama postured against the war to raise funding before he had to worry about the fallback of it, it is he who has made it the centerpiece of his campaign. For the matter the Obamateur has based his ENTIRE CAMPAIGN on a silly Iraq speech he made when he had no skin in the matter which was probably more to rally up dollars from Syrian and Iranian donors in Illinois than any "judgement" call."
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@Yaboloitiz - please just grow up.
You and the bots please:
1. sign in as ONE alias not nine.
2. Stop whining. Mrs. Clinton has had to fight the big money and competence of the rightwing smear machine while at the same time fight the psychotic unhinged litmus-test left.
Obama's had a pillow and a blanket and a lollipop up to now.It could'nt last but since the left has effectively done what they do best: snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, there's little question Obama will be shoved down our throats as nominee and lose to McCain in an electoral landslide.
Therefore the hard left should be happy and celebatory. They get to play on with more elitist superiorism and liberal handwringing for another eight years.
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"pyschopath."
coming from someone who threatens people, doesn't mean much
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What DID Hillary say anways?
For those, like me, who need a little refresher: http://youtube.com/watch?v=v9LhWUsrJnM
"I would point to the fact that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the civil rights act of 1964 [...] ".
I think many would disagree with that statement, and without having to call Hillary racist. The dream began to be realized when Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat. The dream began to be realized when the African American community rose up and demanded change. MLK had boatloads of leadership skills. He motivated many to take up his cause. He motivated Arfican Americans and others to stand up and endure physical harm while following non-violence. He swayed fence sitters and opponents as well.
It's been 44 years and we are still working on realizing Dr. King's dream.
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All spin, no substance, no reality
Your words are not reality, dataguyx.
Tom Payne too.
You are both part of the problem. Full of insults, smears, and lies.
Your words are nothing but attitudes, and destructive inaccurate ones at that.
Here are your words back at you: you have no experience, all you do is lie. Any work you've done is nothing. You amount to nothing. I'm sure you can sit on the toilet like the rest of them but that is all. insult, insult, insult, bad word, bad word, bad word, insult, bad word, insult, insult, insult, bad word, insult, insult.
That's about all you have to say.
Do you see how ugly it is? What if people only defined you lies, smears, ugly language and accusations, and all the mistakes you have made in your life? How would you like to work hard for the public good and be demonized by a bunch of people who sit around, say evil things about you? Would you like that?
Is that really what you want to be doing in the world?
Is that really the energy you want to put out in the world.
Why don't you tell us all the mistakes you've made in your lives?
Wouldn't it be fun if people only thought of you in a demonized way?
*Best*
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foad anderson
you and your nutty cohorts have threatened people all over the boards only second to your misogynist slurs and race-baiting.
You're truly scum all over.
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deeper truth
we agree on some points, and disagree on others.
Fair, substantive comparing and contrasting is not an "ism"
*agreed*
Dolores -
This has been a contest/competition for the Democratic nomination. People are trying to talk about and show why they're the best candidate for the general election and Presidency.
Hillary has said this year many times that MLK is one of her greatest inspirations. She's the only one who got to see him in the flesh. Do you know that one of her long-time top Advisors and Aides is Maggie Williams, and African-American woman. Are you aware that Maya Angelou is supporting Hillary because she knows Hillary and Bill and knows the truth. And there are many other African-Americans who are still supporting Hillary. They know she is/was not/has never been racist. Hillary starting organizing to help children of migrant families when she was a teenager.
*disagreed* I don't think its a fair statement to KNOW any Americans is 100% free of any ounce of racism....I don't say that I am 100% free of racism after all I grew up in a country where we have apartheid in our educational system and I haven't done enough to try to change that...I agree that the Clintons have one of the if not the best record of any politicians when it comes to race...but even this doesn't mean that they have no ounce of bad behavior or that they aren't capable of a mistep (say, Rwanda, or the continuing injustice over unequal drug sentencing that continued under the Clinton administration).
Hillary was just saying in her comments that it's important to be a doer as much as it's important to be a dreamer. She is both too.
*okay, I can agree here.*
Do you really think the Clintons would go to South Carolina and be racist?
*I don't see their behavior as intentionally race based.*
It doesn't even make any sense.
Jesse Jackson has no issue with the fact that Bill Clinton said Jesse won South Carolina. Jesse's proud of winning. It is a comment that has to do with the dynamics of race in the race, but it was not meant to be racist.
*okay.*
Also think of it this way. Many African-Americans are feeling like it's their opportunity to have an African-American president. Many women are feeling like it's their opportunity.
*okay.*
But can you imagine the backlash and outrage there would be if it was actually the other way around? If it was a more experienced older African-American man vs. a younger woman, and she was ahead of him, and everyone was telling him to get out and hang it up?
*the only problem with this is that the presidency is based on the will of the voters. No matter how the votes are counted, even if Florida and Michigan were included, Obama has won more votes.
I have a complicated relationship pyschologically to Hillary Clinton. In one way I feel guilty as a woman for not supporting her campaign because I decided earlier on that I preferred Obama as a candidate. However, if I personally were going to analyze the difference between them and why I support Obama and I think that he is winning is that I think she has not communicated enough compassion in her campaign. I know others may disagree...maybe you have heard her speeches differently. But when I have heard her speak she has had a grasp of policy detail, but she has not emotionally connected with me as a voter in the way that Bill Clinton did. This is ironic because I have always wanted to like her more than I liked him....But somehow I have heard policy and even "toughness" but not enough compassion. Even in Obama's weaker moments...Bittergate etc....I still hear compassion in his address and this attracts me to him as a voter.
I know that you might hear the speeches differently, so I would be interested to know if you "hear" this compassion thing in Clinton and not in Obama...or if it is something that you have not particularly noticed either way. I do think it is legitimate to wonder whether or not Obama is "ready" as a candidate, but if Clinton were elected, there is no guarantee that he would come next or at all...such is the truth of politics and America.