Letters to the Editor
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Compare and Contrast
Let's compare and contrast Joan's take on showing emotion in this campaign:
Obama showing irritation = bad:
"The thing that stands out, two days later, is how irritated he seemed by the tough questioning. Sure, I wish there had been more substance to the ABC debate, but now that he's the clear front-runner, Obama had to expect more attention to questions about his past, from Jeremiah Wright to Bill Ayers. His irritation was irritating." (4/18/2008)
Clinton showing emotion = You go girl!
"Clearly Clinton knows she has to retool her sinking campaign. But no one is jumping forward with a convincing Extreme Makeover. The biggest problem with her teary moment this morning wasn't that it dominated television coverage and the blogosphere. The problem was that it ignited debates over whether her tears were real. (I won't link to Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin's bitchy reactions.) There might be no single better symbol of Clinton's troubles fighting Obama. Still, that breach in her armor of invulnerability and indomitable competence at least felt like a glimmer of possibility that the person behind the persona -- now an underdog, which could be liberating -- might come through." (1/8/2008)
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MOVE ON!
What stumble? John McCain's irritations are described as his famous temper. I think we are all tired of the same questions that the media is posing to Obama and Hillary. If I was to be constantly judge about the people I associated with in the 60's and 70's I would be angry too. Can we move on? Tough questions about the economy or the high unemployment or dare we say, THE WAR are what ABC should have been concerned about.
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Bif win myth
.."The previous Newsweek poll, conducted in March after Clinton's big primary wins in Ohio and Texas,..."
Hillary was able to SPIN it into a BIG win which it was NOT!!!
Its a myth that Hillary won Big in TX and OH. In TX Hillary only won the primary by 1 pt, and Obama won the TX caucus. Obama came out of TX with more pledged delegates than Hillary. In Ohio Hillary won by 10 pts.,yet her percentage of delegates did not work out in the same percentage because Obama won in the large population areas.
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His debate performance HAS hurt him
His Gallup lead is all gone.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/106606/Gallup-Daily-Clinton-46-Obama-45.aspx
Bye bye Obambi!
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A Debate?
Joan,
This was not a debate. I failed to hear one question that the answer might provide insight as to what will make the lives of Americans better. Shame on you for not questioning ABC news and the worst "debate" I have seen in my 40 years of following politics. No wonder the country in the shape we are in. Bush wears a "flag pin" and he started an illegal, ill advised war, allowed torture in violation of the Geneva convention, ran the economy into the ground, and lied repeatedly about a myriad of things. But by God he wears that damn pin!
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mostbakken
"Question: When will Joan Walsh and Salon discuss the FACT that Hillary Clinton is turning off the people that she NEEDS to vote for her? Or as others have stated, is Clinton really just trying to toss the Dems under the bus this year so that she can run again in 4 years?"
Good question. My husband thinks that is exactly what she is trying to do. Problem is that strategy will destroy the party for longer than 4 years. Democrats need the new infusion of voters Obama is bringing to the party.
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Does Joan Walsh have any credibility left?
Fortunately, as others have told you Joan, it wasn't a stumble. This is precisely the problem with the media. They try to spin the story instead of reporting it like it is. I'd say 20,000 responses at abcnews.com ought to show you it wasn't a stumble.
This is precisely what Glenn Greenwald is talking about. You should sit down and have a long conversation with him, Joan.
Also as others have pointed out 35,000 people showed up at Obama's speech in Philadelphia last night. They then marched down Market Street. Pretty big story. Ambinder has it over at the Atlantic.
But of course the press isn't interested in covering that because it doesn't fit their neat little story line of "Things going bad for Obama post-debate. Pay no attention to what the people are saying. They're not important. We here in the media shape the news, not report it. And if it doesn't fit what we want, we just ignore it."
It's a shame we can't get a working Fourth Estate in this country that actually does its job. And you wonder how they let the drum-up to this war slip by without ever questioning anyone. The MSM is an embarassment. Salon's following increasingly closer behind every day.
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Uh, Cythera
Isn't this your post from just three days ago?
Stewsburntmonkey, polls are NOT the "real world"
Didn't New Hampshire or Super Tuesday teach you anything? In the real world, your candidate can't seem to get over the hump with core Dem constituencies. It's sad, but that's the real world.
Permalink Wednesday, April 16, 2008 09:51 AM
Hmmmmm. Polls aren't the real world, except when you say they are. Either way, the Obama bus has already left town. All that's left is his nomination.
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rosenkavalier
I posted this from Daily Kos on another thread. It puts the wickedly, radical Rev. Wright in perspective. I think some of his comments were off the wall, but I think he earned the right to them. Certainly more so than the comments regularly spewed by Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell,JohnHagee.Is your conservative father upset that John McCain was endorsed in person by Rev. John Hagee, or is just upset over Rev. Wright? I think in his own way Rev. Wright loves america far more than the right wing christian leaders who regularly vomit up their venom without an ounce of concern by all the good conservative out there. Enough with Rev, Wright already.
From Daily Kos:
"Who loves America? Jeremiah Wright loved it enough that while Dick Cheney was getting his string of five deferments, Wright voluntarily gave up his student deferment, left college and joined the United States Marine Corps. Wright was valedictorian of his class in Corpsman School. When asked about the sacrifices he'd made, Wright said he was inspired by the words of John Kennedy that he should "ask what he could do for his country."
And he did that at a time where there were many restaurants in this country that wouldn't serve him food, hotels where he could not get a room, neighborhoods where he could not hope to live, and whole states where he could not obtain justice. That, damn it, is how much Jeremiah Wright loves this country. What Stephanopoulos asked isn't fair, because there are very few people who have expressed their love for America as clearly as Reverend Wright, especially when America -- then and now -- rarely seems to appreciate their dedication."