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Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:00 AM

Don't blame San Francisco for Obama's "Bittergate"

Candidates pander to wealthy donors in every city, not just mine!

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Wednesday, April 16, 2008 02:40 PM

@Madam Stop coloring hair (OT, mostly)

Yes, you could end up looking like Storm in X-Men. Very fitting for a Madam.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/x_men_3/halle_berry/xmen3_char.jpg

Funny thing is, a few hours ago, I was looking at my hair in the rear view mirror, backlight by the sun. Shit, it's starting to turn white. Maybe I should shave my head like the real Fester. Meanwhile, back to bashing the candidates and each other. Did you see HuffPo digging up more crap on Hillary and her 1995 "Screw 'em" comments? Maybe the candidates should cover themselves in gasoline and start flipping matches at each other. The evil internet strikes another blow for freedom of the masses.

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 02:49 PM

Mon Oncle

Yes, you could end up looking like Storm in X-Men. Very fitting for a Madam.

Yes. I wanna look like that. You know, I might be just able to pull that off - in a parallel universe

Meanwhile, back to bashing the candidates and each other. Did you see HuffPo digging up more crap on Hillary and her 1995 "Screw 'em" comments? Maybe the candidates should cover themselves in gasoline and start flipping matches at each other. The evil internet strikes another blow for freedom of the masses.

Yes I did. I am pleased that the internet is informing the MSM, otherwise they would just be sitting on their thumbs.

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 02:50 PM

@Stellaa

Your post starts out with an interesting division of people: editor/writers, general readers, casual commenters, and hardcore (regular and repeated) commenters.

That's an interesting division. And you're right, the hardcore commenters (of which I am one) probably wish they could have more impact. Personally, I can imagine it would be fun to work at a place like Salon. I think it would be very challenging, and when I'm not typing furiously in response to one of Joan Walsh's or Rebecca Traister's columns, I have a lot of respect for the work that they do.

But the rest of your post goes a little nutty-nuts on us. You okay there, Stellaa? Let me quote you:

Stellaa: "You have demonized Hillary, the Clintons and women to name a few. Now you come here at Salon and you demonize the writers and Joan."

You use the word "you" like everybody here is saying the same thing. A lot of people here are level-headed. There are also those who go too far. They're not just on the Obama side, though! I think it's really uncool to insist that the bad behavior is primarily committed by Obama folks. Just browse through these comments and you'll find the usual "kool aid," "messiah," "obamabots" and similar hateful comments coming from the Clintonist.....er, I mean Clinton supporters.

Stellaa: "You sit in your privileged lives putting down others, yet you behave like the lowest common denominator. You are the mobs of Clockwork Orange, using your keyboards as the boots to kick people in the face."

I have to laugh when you assume everybody here has "priveleged lives." I grew up dirt poor. I worked my way through college and probably never would have gone if I hadn't gotten a merit scholarship and a Pell grant. Priveleged lives? Maybe compared to people in other countries.

As for being the mobs of "A Clockwork Orange," cool! I love lovely, lovely Ludwig Van. I've got a taste for a bit of the old Pretty Polly devotchkas and chilliwicks. Not to mention a bit of the old ultraviolence. I love lomticks of toast. But you'd better be nice or I'll tolchock your ass, real horror show. Welly welly well, me droog? See you at the Korova Milk Bar!

Stellaa: "What did you sacrifice to stop the war? What did you risk to change this country? You put up a poster, you went to a rally, you wrote on a blog and wrote a nasty letter here. Cowards the lot of you."

Okay, you've called us all cowards. But how are you different? What have you done? What should we have done? Joined the military to stop the war? Or what? You've blown a microchip!

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 02:52 PM

Can someone post Little Lord Baltimore's post? I cannot find it.

Now that the ever alert and discerning AKA thought I was Baltimore, I wanna know what I wrote.

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 02:58 PM

@Glennski

Glennski! Your experience is much like my own! You wrote:

Glennski: "I used to consider Salon.com my NUMBER ONE, go-to Web site for political news and insight. In other words, the site to which I go FIRST THING each day when I want to see what's up. For several YEARS this has been the case. Honest to God."

Me too! I've been a regular reader of Salon since around 1997 or so! Maybe before that! Back when the site design was real skinny and simple.... I've spent an important portion of my adult life as a Salon reader! Enough so that I feel a personal affront when the site is soiled by an editor's bad-faith approach to the readership.

Glennski: "But after so many, many pro-Clinton and pro-Clinton-but-nuanced and under-the-radar-pro-Clinton articles... I feel that Salon under your leadership has LOST ITS OBJECTIVITY. As a result, I no longer make Salon my first daily news stop. Other sites have taken its place. Sure, I still try to visit Salon each day but it no longer holds its high ranking as the first place I go to get good, solid, alternative journalism."

I'm getting there too. Not enough to overhaul my habits, but I've definitely developed a different feeling and a different experience with Salon. I'm an old-schooler who used to love reading alternative newsweeklies during lunchtime in high school, laughing at Matt Groening's "Life in Hell" comics (looooong before the Simpsons), buying alternative-press magazines and so on. For me, Salon.com was like the online equivalent of that experience. It was one of the few sites that felt "alive" in the way that those paper publications did.

Salon has lost something with its partisanship. It's soured something.

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 03:04 PM

Smith callin' manos mad...

...when she's probably the most consistantly Smithophrenic poster round these parts is pretty feeble, but it has been often times noted, and often repeated, that wobbles sometimes wobble, but most times they just weeble.

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