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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
you were always "cool" could you help with the "messiah problem"?
lol :)
hi dude.
Dunno. You have to be more specific.
i have a hard time being "specific"!
I agree with you. I don't think obama's been properly vetted & will likely have big problems in the general election & the White House, (if he gets there). The leaders of the Democratic party just can't seem to help themselves. Between the Kennedys, Kerrys, Pelosis, & the media our country is once again on the road to screwing itself. For me this race is not about personality but ideas. Hillary clearly has the better ideas. She has behaved badly on occasion, but she's become desperate & she has been treated unfairly. A number of her peers, the media, & a great many citizens have abandoned her after she stood for them. Look at the work she did for the Katrina victims, (even the Repubs grudgingly gave her kudos). Where were the voters of LA & MS? Their loyalty, like Richardson, Leahy, Daschle, Dodd, Kerry, Casey, etc was not to be seen. Pretty much the same place any original ideas from obama are, other than his "superior judgment". It's like Deval Patrick's speech that was obama's before it was Patrick's & then obama's again. Or his economic plan that economists said was a virtual clone of Hillary's or his last minute decision to renegotiate NAFTA after she revealed her intentions to renegotiate. His economic advisor was so panicked he went to the Canadians to reassure them it was just to get voters. The list goes on. There will be a mountain of catastrophes a la Bush when the next president takes office. We need someone with sound ideas & creative solutions, someone that will accept counsel from others & determine the best, not another Bush in obama clothing.
Exposing all your self-serving pettiness for what it is: Vapid, horrible coverage of this election season. Transforming the poorest presidential candidate into an elitist. How come Joan, you don't have the journalistic integrity to actually compare all of the candidates and show an accurate perspective of who is the real elitist, rather than smearing one candidate with a couple of ill chosen words as being one. Does these sentences invalidate his entire life, campaign? Really this is not fair. If Glenn Greenwald leaves this site, really, there will be no reason to come back here. At least he has the perspective to see this 'bittergate' for what it is: Another hypocritical construction made by the media elite.
Joan
You just can't help but slam Obama at every possible opportunity can you? Is being so close top power intoxicating for you? Do you and Hillary hang out? Is this why you have destroyed the credibility of Salon by blatantly supporting her?
Hillary is bland, boring and is running for President ONLY because she was married to one (the antithesis of what feminism is about) lies about braving sniper fire but ... she is a WOMAN.
Would you have Salon return to being a first rate magazine if Obama got a sex change operation?
Think of it. You could have a brilliant, inspiring leader who was also a WOMAN. Then women everywhere could go wild in the streets... WE HAVE A WOMAN PRESIDENT. WE HAVE A WOMAN PRESIDENT.
Yes, its sad. Do we elect a boring leader who lies about being brave, but who is a WOMAN or do we elect a brilliant inspiring leader but who isn't a woman?
One of the letters to Salon says it all: "We women are not going to let this nomination be stolen from Hillary:" We girls are all together on this.
Identity politics is for small minded people. I would vote for a purple toad frog if it was best for the country. That so many women (not all, thank God) would support Hillary simply because she is a woman is beyond the pale.
with "specifics" like "bittergate" they create traffic and "generate" (guess what) - lets "hope" they will all find their way to Glenn and the only "readable" blog on Salon.
Is it a mistake to tell the truth? Is telling the truth "pandering"?
The title of this article was clever. I had been wondering to myself the same thing. Are the people in San Francisco insulted because everyone keeps focusing on THAT being the place that Obama made his remarks?
I didn't then, haven't grown to or even anticipate getting the slightest bit worked up over Obama's remarks. I still think he pretty much speaks out on what most people are thinking but they just don't say. Bill Clinton said much the same thing, but in his laid back Arkansas style and no one thought a thing about it. Obama said much the same thing..minus the word "clinging" in 2004 when prompted by Charlie Rose. No big deal then.
I don't know why it is so hard to believe that people are "mad as hell and aren't going to take it anymore". Look, we can read Joan go on all day about how the "white, blue collar workers" are going to be the ones to decide this election, but in all honesty..who the hell knows?
The United States of America ranks near the bottom of the list of countries that have democratic elections with regards to voter participation. People can run off at the mouth all day long...but how many of them show up at the polls? Before telling me who the "most important" group of the electorate is, how about figuring out just how many people in those categories, that journalists love to put people in, vote.
I, for one, hope all the mad people show up. Maybe then it won't be the people that constantly vote against their economic interests by falling for all the crap that George Bush laid at their feet. Hopefully we have all reached a point where we can vote because we are pissed that this country is in the shape it's in and not out of FEAR or someone telling you just how afraid you should be.
We have listened to them go on and on about the disenfranchised voters of Michigan & Florida, the black voters in South Carolina, the Latino vote in Nevada, Texas, Arizona & New Mexico, the northern "elites", the college town voters, the beaten-down middle class, the forgotten blue-collar factory workers..we are all one of those somehow, according to the people on television that know so much more about us than we know about ourselves.
So in the end, "journalists" and "news readers" can pick apart words and add their own bit of flare to it to try and add fuel to the fire if they want..what difference does it make? What they have actually done is wake this sleeping giant so they better be prepared to deal with it. Americans seem to be paying attention this time..to the real issues at hand..and not the ones that politicians and pundits deem important, but the ones that mean something to us.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
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