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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
I wasn't shrieking when I called your journalism biased. The fact that you didn't notice all the genuinely shrieking, hostile Clinton supporters tells me where your loyalties sit.
And if Obama is a liberal/coastal phenomenon, what explains Ohio and North Carolina? I read the full quote in its full context and I still don't see the problem. I'm still from working class Texas, raised by racist working class parents and I still don't get why it is that people are hurt, and that attitude has been stated again and again on Salon. Obviously, a few people have felt genuinely disgruntled, but the majority of readers have written to say something else.
Trust me, Joan, I am not blind or incapable of rational thought. If I thought Obama was behaving poorly I'd say so. The truth of the matter is that this entire scandal is an invention of the press. I think you are the one who's not getting in, and that genuinely saddens me.
What must be really galling to the Obamabots, however, is that he was recorded saying what he said and was blogged about...with attribution...on a much-read blog.
"Obama supporters." I guess that's what you mean by "Obamabots," since you don't suggest there's any other sort of person in favor of his candidacy. You seem sure of what's going on inside the heads of such persons.
Well, I can tell you, we aren't galled at all. We aren't bothered. And apparently, neither is the country at large. Only people already strongly opposed to Obama seem incensed by his remarks. And that seems to be an ever smaller portion of the Democratic party.
Perhaps that's what's "galling" to you?
Folks, even the Messianic Obama, like most humans, has clay feet. Hence he cannot walk on water.
Everytime this guy does something wrong, we are treated to yet another "national discussion" and the focus is removed from Obama the candidate. It's good politics, bad policy.
Joan, before writing another article, kneel at the alter of Obama for 20 minutes and chant in a sing-songy voice for twenty minutes: O-Bam-A, O-Bam-A, O-Bam-A, O-Bam-A, O-Bam-A...
In this way, you'll change your ways, lose reason and argument but gain hope, and avoid the passionately bitter protests against your articles by the clingy Obamites.
I know that a Journalist/Editor cannot have a "thin skin", but you must be an armadillo.
Kudos.
"Don't let the bozos grind you down"
-- Guy Kawasaki
... thinks Obama is wrong about this, then how come she does not address issues like the ongoing worldwide crisis in the price of food, the overvalued dollar hurting the working classes of the US,and how a Clinton presidency would manage these issues.
What Obama is saying is that many people who are in the economic doldrums are taking solace by voting for social atavism rather than economic progress. If Hillary disagrees, let her explain why.
It's not as if they represent more than the tiniest tiny sliver of anything. Zealots and fools most of them so trying to explain something to them is a waste of time. Politics is the new entertainment and whatever you do never tell people their taste is shit.
Is starting to remind me a little of Marshall Applewhite and followers.
Therefore Joan, if you have no doubt that Obama would make the better President for working class Americans, then write about why you think so. Please feel free to provide many details in your essay.
Your "Bittergate" is the first time I have seen this characterization. My feeling is expressed here by others that "BITTER" is what you Hillary supporters are feeling every day. You must now know that she is not the better candidate for Democrats to run against John McCain.
Your worries as to who will win in November are ill-informed. Barack Obama will pound that same-old, same-old Republican-policies BS candidate.
This country is fed-up with an endless occupation in Iraq, an economy that serves the rich primarily, the export of our manufacturing base, the Republicanization of our U.S. Attorneys and an over dependence on oil that enriches too many of our so-called friends. We want our good name restored around the world. We need hope and we need our young people in the forefront.
A good leader focuses our attention on the truly important problems of our country and our world. Think Barack and you say "Yes". Think Hillary and you say "No". Think McCain and you say "Hell No".
What astounds me about this entire presidential campaign is the arrogance and stupidity (always a deadly combination) of the reporters and pundits (sorry) covering it. You guys are the very definition of insiders. You've got your heads so far up your collective heinies that you have absolutely no idea -- absolutely none -- about what so-called "average" people think.
Everyone I'VE spoken to thinks Obama's response to Hillary was hysterically funny and totally on target. And you don't have to be a sociologist to understand that the "ruling classes" (for lack of a less loaded phrase) actually control the not-so-ruling-classes by stirring the homophobia-gun control-God and country pot to draw their attention away from the fact that they're being manipulated, mangled, and abused.
As a member of the working class (as opposed to the middle class, to which I aspire), I can assure you that working people are not stupid. Undereducated, possibly, but not stupid. We are angry and yes, bitter, about the state of affairs in this country. My income has decreased (in real dollars) every year; I am paddling as fast as I can to keep from drowning. I can't afford to send my child to a public college. I drive a 13 year old car (a reliable foreign car, sadly), and my property taxes, on the condo I can barely afford, go up every year. Soon I'll be out on the street. I have two sons of "draft" age, and I cry every time I see another mother lose a son or daughter in Iraq, because I can only imagine how they feel and I want the bleeding to stop. One of my son's best friends will be in Iraq soon, and we'll all be holding our breath and praying.
Yeah, I'm bitter, and I want someone to address my actual concerns. I can not possibly care less that Hillary's grampie took her shooting out behind the cottage. I am deeply insulted that she thinks that kind of argument has any power.
What the candidates and the press seem completely incapable of understanding is that we're fed up with all this baloney. We're fed up with their pandering and we're fed up with your silly analyses of non-issues. Stop it stop it stop it. Start dealing with the issues.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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