Letters to the Editor
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What's actually apparent
is that the opinion of the punditry, including your incoherent "analysis" or whatever you call this latest serving of yours, matters less and less in the grand scheme of things.
Funny you don't cite the pack of polls that have just come out showing voters not being moved - at all - by this nonsense of a "story". Barack gets the credit for that, in my view. He knows how to fight hard, fast and smart. Your candidate keeps losing the battles she picks, or haven't you noticed? And don't you worry about Barack's base, we're not going anywhere.
The punditry, yourself included, needs to find another way to make a living. This particular "professional" path is fast losing credence and relevance.
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beating a dead horse
Really? This entire story tells us more about how the media (and many politicians) are out of touch with what really matters to American voters. Voters really don't care whether Obama thinks rural voters are "bitter" or not.
Is anybody out there seriously contending that Clinton or McCain is better attuned to the working class than Obama?
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To hell with the horse race
Let's stay focused, shall we?
"For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle - as we did in the OJ trial - or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.
We can do that.
But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we'll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change."
How 'bout you, Joan?
Do you stand for change or bullshit as usual?
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Too late to the party...
Unfortunately, Bittergate seems about over, with apparently minimal impact in the polls.
I guess you'll have to return to bemoaning the sexism to be found in the fact that Her Imperial Majesty can't seem to campaign her way out of second place. I mean, it must be sexism, right? Not the lying, not the lack of planning, not the overreaching or sense of entitlement with which she began the primary season, it's the sexism.
There, I've written your next article for you.
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What Gaffe??
Why was what Obama said a gaffe? Is it untrue? I could name personal family members, friends, acquaintances, who all fit the characterization. There is a reason George W. Bush was reelected. The rubes. America is a woefully uninformed country. We've lost our position as a respected world leader as a result. We've lost our treasury as a result. Obama spoke the painful truth. Let's face it, like grownups
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have you seen that onion video...
bout how Bullshit is now the number one issue in the presidential campaign?
Well, this story is some serious bullshit. Stop peddling it.
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Joan, again, is full of it.
Just another chance to bring up something (anything) to hopefully harm Obama. Oh, but the topic of this piece is American cities, blah, blah, blah.
Joan, if you are really upset that a politician said voters are bitter, then you need to go away.
Do you really prefer the phony "optimistic" nonsense that politicians usually spout?
Do you like the current state of politics? You sure are defending it pretty hard.
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Joan Walsh should step down
I sometimes think that Salon has no respect for its own subscribers. The way she describes us is pretty awful. Salon depends on the very liberal, educated elite she decries and yet, cannot abide.
Obama's comments showed a real willingness to look at the matters as they stand, even if they are unpretty. Clinton's campaign seems to be willing to embrace the ugliness of American racism in order to win at all costs. As a Native American, that is something I wish Walsh could not abide, rather than "coastal liberals, lefty intellectuals, Ivy League check-writers and African-Americans", which, except for the latter, pretty much describes subscribers to her publication. I think us Native American, Ivy League-educated subscribers are probably pretty few and beign Obama supporters probably receive her scorn as well.
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Sadly, yes
I really think there is a lot of debate among the have mores than the have nots regarding Obama's bitter comments on working class middle America (as an extrapolation of Pennsylvanians.) I think its like the media "elite" are patronizing. I think when we think about it, its very much like his statement about blacks and whites having resentment toward each other. It rings true and we are glad someone has the guts to say it. If any one has been even half way educated, we understand that scapegoats are found when the economy sucks. We know we are doing it. We know we are bitter and we know that the border issue and gay rights are political buzzwords, conventions, to exploit the inner racist in us. A way to blame the weak for oppression from the strong and powerful. Isn't it silly to hear Clinton and McCain say are not bitter? We have had enough. Should we just put on the PollyAnna routine and say we are thrilled with the direction the country is going? I mean the polls say we are not happy with the direction the country is going. Is that not bitter? It aint sweet.
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Joan (without spitting)
Ok, I know it is not your tendency to respond to people asking specific and reasonable questions during these heated exchanges. My bet is that you will respond to those here who say really stupid or innappropriate things. But I'm going to ask again that you at least consider conversing only with those of us who (even if we disagree with you) are trying to reason through some of this stuff with you.
My question: I want to know why you place so much importantce on the extreme Obama supporters who are awful? I see 'em too!!!! Do you see a qualitative difference between them and the extreme idiots (probably same percentage of supporters, in my opinion) who support Hillary. This might not be a sexy conversation for you to be having and maybe that's why you have yet to have it, but I am very interested in what it is you know about the bottom barrell Obama supporters. Is there reason to think that he generates a higher percentage of idiot than she does? I see what you are pointing to, over and over, when you mention these creeps. But I don't think I'm being extreme when I say that i can easily point to the same level of awfulness on the Hillary supporter side.
But that's why I'm not calling you names; I'm just wanting to know where you are coming from. I don't see any reason to highlight the crappy Obama supporters over the hers or McCain's...