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  • Wednesday, April 16, 2008 04:36 PM

    Just for you smith. Normally I don;'t waste my time, as your not here to grow, but to propogate

    As far as your first half, I have already answered, and am wasting no more time on that. You know what your doing and why. your not stupid/ignorant as you claim, so I'm not going to humor you.

    I did contradict myself, on purpose, to show you an important differance. you showed me you are a racist, but that's neither here nor there.

    It's not about me. I know you me me me, clinton propogandist/republcains can only think abou tyoru selves and what your go to get. It's not about me. It's about my children. It's about poor children with no one to look up to but sports figures.

    Good grief rufus! You say you are a white male. Why do your children need to look up to Obama? There are powerful white people everywhere. It would make sense if your children were black.

    My children, specifically, do not have to look up to obama. Others do/may. Again, it's not always about. My children don't "HAVE" to look up to any pirticular person, even me (altough I hope they do) :). I look up to the man, for reasonse I detailed, that you mock. can white people only look up to white people? Can a white person have diffrant race role models. Not sure what your getting at here. I believe your showed your face as a racist with this line, but that's my opinion, and again neither here nor there. to say all black people must have black role models, and white white and asian asins, is the issue and inequailty we are talking about here, and trying to fight. Again, you show yoru face. I feel sorry for you. how do yo ucompartmentalize all that in youru head at once? When you watch tv or listen to someone, where is the line drawn in your mind? Not sure what your getting at here. "That is a smart statement. is he/she white? She is. Alright. She's cool. I like her." Or" this person is smart. I like her/him. Is he/she mixed race? Philopino? A christian? label labels labels".

    how do you compartmentalize all thsoe thoughts in your head at once. MAybe that's why nothing get's through. To much garbage to wade throguh.

    Unlike you clinton supporters (with your sexist garbage because "you've seen sexism) I don't have an axe to grind. If I did I wouldn't blame it on clinton as she has nothing to do with my past. I wish you would understand that with your "sexist" arguements.

    You don't think sexism is an issue. I do think sexism is an issue. I want my daughter to have sucessful women to look up to. Why is this wrong?

    Sexism is an issue. blame those responsible. not barack. not his supporters. We are fighting for equality for all. You would compartmentalize, just women. that is selfish and petty to destroy our dreams and hopes because you want a woman face to go with yoru percieved message.

    your daugther should have role models, women. does it have to be president? And it's not wrong for you to want a female president role madel. Again, it's your tactics and cohorerts I take issue with. Your argueemtns and tactics, to acheinve your perceived goal.

    The big one:

    I said: "But what about those people who try to label Clinton supporters as racists? Are they not trying to divide people?"

    You replied: they used racist statments. Not once. not twice. But over and over. Many of their people. And they did it for politics and to divde rather than unite. To not call a pig a pig, cause it offends the pig, accomlishes nothing.

    I don't think the clintons are racist, based on their histroy.

    But they did use, and continue to, use racist statements and race biting to divide.

    We can argue if that is racist or not. i think it is. Obviously you don't. But race and gender had no place in this election. clinton brought both in, along with her republican propoganda freinds.

    You contradict yourself here. You say race and gender have no place in the election. First, that is naive, and second, you are the one who is race-baiting here because you cannot establish that the Clintons did any such thing. Instead, the Obama campaign tried to make it look as if they did in order to consolidate AA and white liberal support. That's dirty!

    Let's leave out the racist statements and race baiting "proof". I don't want to waste my time. I'm sure others here have 50 examples. The important point, tha tyou didn't get is. I said I don't think they are racist's based on based actions. But they are using racist tactics to divide and race bait. But you should have said "you said she wasn;t a racist". you missed the boat. The people may or may not be racist, debatable and only they can know whats in their heart. to use race as a wedge issue to divide. Playing with racist's to get their vote AGAINST another candidate. Is that a racist tactic? i say yes. Can someone who is not a "racism" use racism and racit tactics? Yes, and they did. As a wedge issue to divide. they played racism. they would say "the gop will do this". let them do their own fascist dirty work. When you do their work FOR them, you become them. we are what we do say and associate ourselves with. by that metrics she is now a republcain.

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