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• Wednesday, April 16, 2008 04:14 PM

  @ rufus11

  "Repentance is a change of thought and action to correct a wrong and gain forgiveness from the one wronged. It always includes an admission of guilt, and also includes at least one of: a solemn promise or resolve not to repeat the offense; attempt to make restitution for the wrong, or in some way to reverse the harmful effects of the wrong where possible."

  That's a dictionary definition. I am not at odds with the meaning of repentance. I wanted to know what you want Clinton supporters to seek repentance for and be forgiven for.

  to say sorry is not enough. You must BE sorry if you claim sorrow. another way of expressing that is a word called reprentance. Not only used in religous context. Your a college tutor, I would have thought you know yoru vocabulary. I fell sorry for those you tutor.

  But what must Clinton supporters be sorry for? I know repentance is not always used in a religious context. You still have not establish what Clinton supporters need to be forgiven for doing.

  It's not enough for you republcains, I mean clinton supportrs, to say sorry, then do the same thing over and over and over and over. To repent is to actually be sorry for actions or words and change. STOP DOING WHAT YOUR DOING.

  Which is what?

  Recognize it is wrong and change. Stop dividng your coutnry with the gop for profit and power. Or be chacterized with them, using their tactics and argueemnts because your to weak to fight your own battles on your own. you need help. The only help clinton/leiberman/di fi has is the gop. So you sell-out your party and country for your own ambition,

  You seem to be arguing that Clinton supporters are using GOP tactics but you don't really define what you mean. Are you saying that saying anything negative about Obama is a GOP tactic? Why is that? You don't have a criteria, do you? You want to place every Clinton supporter in some sort of existentialist novel where people are tried and convicted without knowing that with which they are charged. What's the charge here, rufus?

  It's not about me. I know you me me me, clinton propogandist/republcains can only think abou tyoru selves and what your go to get. It's not about me. It's about my children. It's about poor children with no one to look up to but sports figures.

  Good grief rufus! You say you are a white male. Why do your children need to look up to Obama? There are powerful white people everywhere. It would make sense if your children were black.

  Unlike you clinton supporters (with your sexist garbage because "you've seen sexism) I don't have an axe to grind. If I did I wouldn't blame it on clinton as she has nothing to do with my past. I wish you would understand that with your "sexist" arguements.

  You don't think sexism is an issue. I do think sexism is an issue. I want my daughter to have sucessful women to look up to. Why is this wrong?

  All the ills in your life are not my fault, or obama's. I don't blame clinton for my past. Why do you blame obama for yours?

  I don't. What makes you think I do? Please look at my posts and tell me where I ever blamed Obama for my past.

  Take responsibility for your own words and actions/past and do something to improve the future. MAybe you think clinton will. i disagree.

  I have worked with victims of crime to help them and for children who have been victims of abuse. I have even been a Girl Scout leader and worked on a crisis hotline. You have no business claiming I have made no contribution. I have also give to environmental causes. I expect to do some more volunteer work as a CASA again in the near future.

  Yes, I do think Clinton will improve the future. Why else would I support her?

  I said: "But what about those people who try to label Clinton supporters as racists? Are they not trying to divide people?"

  You replied: they used racist statments. Not once. not twice. But over and over. Maybe of their people. And they did it for politics and to divde rather than unite. To not call a pig a pig, cause it offends the pig, accomlishes nothing. I don't think the clintons are racist, based on their histroy. But they did use, and continue to, use racist statements and race biting to divide. We can argue if that is racist or not. i think it is. Obviously you don't. But race and gender had no place in this election. clinton brought both in, along with her republican propoganda freinds.

  You contradict yourself here. You say race and gender have no place in the election. First, that is naive, and second, you are the one who is race-baiting here because you cannot establish that the Clintons did any such thing. Instead, the Obama campaign tried to make it look as if they did in order to consolidate AA and white liberal support. That's dirty!

  Won;t work on me or my movement. We have been fighting the gop for years now, while you "moderates" did nothing. I know the gop and their argeuemnts. I've been ripping them to shreds for years now. you think you can use them successfully? Just because clinton is a woman? tsst tsst tsst.

  Rufus, I have followed you posts. You don't like feminists. That's the truth.

  you cannot have your cake and eat it to. Clinton is done. After pa i hope you realize the error of yoru ways.

  What error. If Clinton loses, she loses. I won't cry and wring my hands. It is not an error to support her as long as I do so for reasons that are valid to me. It's called democracy.

  —AKA Smith Read AKA Smith's other letters
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