She's now said that she wouldn't support a "do-over" yet she insists on getting those delegates. This should prove to everyone that this has nothing...zero...to do with fairness or disenfranchisement.

This is "I need it, so it must be fair."

Go away, Hillary, go away. You don't care about the party, but I do.

With all due respect, this is not about the convenience of the voters who bothered to vote in the first non-primary. Nobody campaigned. Everyone who paid attention knew going in the results were meaningless. To count that self-selected sample at this point is against the agreed upon rules, and does not provide an outcome that reflects what Floridians would actually have done if a real campaign had taken place. I'd think you folks would be tired of being the national whipping boy for botched elections. If you want a voice, convince that DNC that a true, impartial revote is worth the time and expense. I find it unusual, to be charitable, that the ones bleeding for the Michigan and Florida voters are 1. the Governor of Michigan, a staunch Clinton supporter; and 2) the republikan governor of Florida (as if he/they don't have an avid interest in a least stringing the Democratic process out for as long as possible, and, I opine, hoping fervently to run against the voodoo doll they've wanted to stick pins in all along: Hillary. Unfortunate but true, no one extant fires up the crackers and Pharisees like a Clinton. And she wouldn't draw flies in the independent arena. Hello, President McLame and another four, or eight, or a hundred, years of death and economic bloodletting in the middle east. I want your vote to count, too, Magnolia, but not in the way you (and HIllary) propose. For the record, I was an Edwards man to begin with also. A pity, but of the remaining choices, I have no trouble siding with Obama. Good luck in any event, tom

Florida voted. The early Primary was not under Florida Dem control. The RIGHT thing to do is just "Count every Vote". Or we will lose Florida for 100 years.

Many Obama supporters are so young that they only know how bad this Administration is, butt hey did not know about 2000 Election, and the 8 great years under Bill Clinton.

If Obama has any grace, he should be happy as a running mate.

Very good for him, good enough for the party.

According to a Tampa Tribune article from Sept. 2007, Barack Obama held a fundraiser in Florida and he met with reporters -- both of which were against DNC rules.

In addition, Obama said in his comments to reporters that he would "do what's right" and seat Florida delegates if he were the 'presumptive nominee'.

So much for a new way of doing business, "hope", "unity" and "turning the page" on the "politics of the past."

Such disingenuousness.

Here is the link:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/30/obama-vows-do-whats-right/?news-breaking

I say "Full speed ahead!" Seat the Florida delegates.

When Hillary was presumed to be the inevitable nominee, no one thought that the fact that Florida and Michigan openly flouted the rules of the DNC didn't matter. Now that the Midol Maid is in deep doo-doo, every Hillbot is outraged, outraged I tell you, that the voters in these two states have been rendered irrelevant. What a crock. It's as if we're in the eight inning of a baseball game, and one team wants a review of two calls in the third inning. Horsehide. Play the game straight, Hillary, assuming you are, and win, if you can, under the rules that all the candidates, and their staffs, knew were in place a year ago. If she wins legitimately in the upcoming primaries, congratulations. Otherwise, shut the fuggup. She has no right to the nomination because she happened to pick the color of the drapes in the White House and the Arkansas Governor's Trailer. Win in outright, or bow out with grace. If not, join Joe Lieber-thing as a turncoat and a leech on the flesh of what remains of what was once a noble party. The Clintons have proven themselves dynasty- and I do mean nasty- equals of the Bushit family when it comes to naked power grabs. Put up, or shut up. Win, or take the consequences. Don't move the foul pole while the ball is in the air. Their behavior is not progressive, it's regressive. A woman once worthy of respect has turned out to be a mud wrestler. What a pity.

I have a question about the Florida primary. Were there down ticket races as well? And does the DNC accept the validity of those races? Will the proposed vote-over only be for the top of the ticket? It does underscore that this was a legitimate polling of Florida's voters. I think spending money to poll them again really undercuts any democratic claim to good stewardship of resources. How can Obama say vote for me to fix the floundering economy when he wants to spend $20+million for his selfish interest?

Fundraisers were specifically allowed under the agreement, and both candidates had them. Obama's "press conference" consisted of him walking over to a knot of reporters and answering questions for 5 minutes on his way out of one of those fundraisers. The DNC said that did not violate the rules.

See, there's that word again, rules. You need to know them, and you need to respect them, and you need to not turn into every conservative's stereotype of a whiny liberal when they appear to work against you.

Children are taught that it's not fair to change the rules in the middle of the game, and you can't fairly re-schedule these events. Every other state in the country played by the rules. Florida and Michigan each knowingly decided to violate the party rules, and they were informed of the consequences. They opted to proceed anyway, fully aware that the results would not count. Candidates made spending and strategy decisions based on this. Other candidates who are now gone, such as John Edwards, might have performed differently had a different set of rules been in place. If I were a Michigan or Florida voter, I would be mad at hell by the fact that my state chose to knowingly disenfranchise me. But actions have consequences, and the rules can't be changed now, particularly since no one seems to want to pay for it. The nominee should be chosen without the involvement of delegations from Florida or Michigan. Harsh? Yes. But fair. This is the gamble the states took, and perhaps states will think twice in 2012 about holding January primaries against the rules.