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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 12:00 AM

Should Florida and Michigan vote again?

Sure it would be expensive, but the cost to the Democratic Party if superdelegates end up choosing the nominee would also be high.

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 08:24 PM

A 2nd Comment about Florida

Yes the Florida legisture is a majority of Republicians and Gov Crist is also a Republician. They all knew what the DNC was going to do and Gov Crist certainly didn't have to sign the bill. This really isn't fair.

Counting the votes that were cast isn't fair either. The ballot only had 2 things, the candidates and a constitutional amendment to lower property taxes (mainly for the wealthy). People that rent didn't really have a reason to go vote, which makes the January count questionable.

Everyone that wants to be counted should have that chance. The only way to ensure a fair count is to have a do-over. The state created the mess and they should pay to clean it up. There was no surprise here. The DNC laid all the cards on the table and the Republicans chose to ignore it.

Just one more instance of Republician arrogance.

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 08:31 PM

@wright5579

2. Obama broke an agreement between he and Clinton not to campaign in Florida with television ads while Hillary did not.

Hmm, another rich contortion of logic by a Czarina Coronation Cultist. Obama had a national cable ad out at the time. Please explain how you can "black out" a national cable ad in any one particular state. I can't wait to hear how you spin this one.

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 08:42 PM

Don't Change the Rules in the Middle of the contest!!!!

It would be unfair to Obama who never got to campaign the only reason Hillary wants to count this is it may close the delegate gap. In addition what are we saying to fellow American's we can change the rules once you start losing. would like to suggest to stop being so negative and trying to tear down your running mate. I also, would like to also state that FL and MI should not be allowed don't change the game in the middle of the race because it can benefit you. I just feel I hope someone in your campaign reads this. Because, what’s going to happen is that people are going to jump to McCain and not elect you into office. Because, many things you say and do are not backed up with FACTS. You have not disclosed any tax returns. Honestly what are you hiding? Also, what 35 years of experience do you have? The Clintons are no saints when it comes to what took place in the white house. You and Bill have both taking money from foreign deals oversees that you don’t to be put out. I just feel be truthful because right now as a long time democratic I’m not happy about how you have made this out to be all about Poor Hillary. I just feel you need to get it together instead of always talking about what "I" can do and "I" fought for this and that you can't do anything or get anything passed without working along with your fellow congressmen and women. I just feel yesterday was a sad day in history that a woman has to use dirty, lies and whining to achieve a win!!!!! I hope that you do take the time to read this many individuals your not reaching have the same feelings and unanswered questions about the REAL CLINTIONS>

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 08:44 PM

Yes, there should be a 'do-over' in both states

The Dems. have money this election season, and although it most likely won't change the leader, it should be done. Hold it the same date as Penn. The DNC has made their point (about those states not going early). I still don't think Hillary can overtake Obama.

KM

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 08:46 PM

A Split Ticket-- I used to think this was a dumb idea, now I don't!

Whoever wins the most delegates wins the nomination. The race needs to go on. Voters need to decide. Obama offered to redo Michigan and Florida, and Clinton said no go. So I'm not sure that's going to be on the table.

But even so: here's why I think they should learn to share...

Obama like it or not holds the future of the party in his hands....his outreach to young people and independents is nothing short of phenomenal. He has run an amazing campaign. Even his stance on controversial subjects like trade...frankly, the Democrats aren't going to trash NAFTA. I believe him when he says he wants to revise for labor and the environment to a certain degree--but not to throw the whole thing in the garbage. This is important because I'm no economist, but working out some kind of trade deals with our neighbors (renegotiated to help the maquiladoras by all means) but some kind of trade deal is the way of the future. To look at what the Europeans have done in creating an economic block with their neighbors...and the Asians with their neighbors. This is, from an amateur's point of view, part of what the future holds. With caveats for the women working in maquiladoras who deserve to have even a little bit better working conditions. Corporations can afford this and still make their profits. This adjustment needs to be made.

Hillary, like it or not, represents the old Democratic Party. Her appeal to a working class Democrats matters because the Democratic Party cannot afford to throw away working classes--or the people that the Clintons have spent years developing a relationship with. She says she will fight for working people and I worry about her corporate ties (and Obama's) but I'd like to believe her. I think that like John Edwards, she may have become a populist later in the game than some, but since these people have voted for her, I think she will support them. She has been an awesome advocate for New York. She can be the same kind of advocate for the poor...picking up where John Edwards left off or working with John Edwards to fight to eliminate the ravages of poverty in this country.

I used to think this thing wouldn't work because no one wants to be Clinton's vice president because Bill would be the real vice president. But if Obama wins the ticket what if Hillary takes the job of Vice President? It would show that she is committed to the job as much as to the title, because I think that she could teach Obama many things. You can't grasp the future without a solid hold on "history." And it would give her a chance to prove that her ambition is not a cover for her husband making another white house bid (as he has been too likely to make us think throughout this campaign.)

Yes, maybe some will question how Obama could represent "new politics" with a Clinton sharing the ticket. Yet Clinton has earned her mettle. I like the head that Obama has on his shoulders--I think his judgement is (slightly) better than Hillary or Bill's. But with the old Democrats and the new Democrats joining forces for the common good--for the defeat of the Republicans--it could be worth it. And it could defeat once and for all the idea that black men verses white women...only one can be a winner.

Maybe the candidates won't agree...but when I look at the way people have voted, and how passionately people believe in the person who they voted for, I think it may be the only way to defeat McCain...the only way for this party to hold itself together and create a powerful coalition for change.

what do you all think?

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