Get your facts straight and stop spouting MSM misinformation and Obama talking points.

1. Obama's name was initially on the ballot in Michigan. He later filed paperwork to have his name removed from the ballot. Political stunt or not, he had every opportunity to have his name on the ballot, and chose to remove it.

2. Obama broke an agreement between he and Clinton not to campaign in Florida with television ads while Hillary did not.

I live in Florida and follow politics and have been outraged by my vote not counting. Yes I did vote, but I'm sure the right to vote comes with the right to have that vote counted. I've known about this from the beginning and will make it a point to campaign against our governor, Charlie Crist when he is up for re-election.

Nothing was in the news about this until right before the primary took place. It was as if they were trying to hide what they did. I would try to talk to people about this and they would look at me like I was making up some wild story.

I think a huge penality in the form of a fine needs to be paid by the govenor for signing the bill knowing what the outcome was going to be. A rerun of the primary should not cost the canidates or the DNC. The state caused this problem and should pay the price to fix their mess. How dare Charlie Crist take my right to vote away in the most important election in the past 50+ years.

We have a right to vote and be counted. The primary should be rerun at the expense of the state of Florida.

I don't know enough about how Michigan got in this mess to have an opinion on how they should get out of it.

The only alternative to an expensive revote is to split Florida and Michigan 50/50 so that each gets half the delegates in each state. Howard Dean has turned it over to the parties in both states and said that he would favor seating the delegates chosen in a revote.

What a mess!! The superdelegates CANNOT overturn the pledged delegates without starting a rebellion. It has to be settled by the time the opening gavel falls.

Karen

Florida and Michigan should have listened to the Democratic Party last year,when they were told not to bring their primaries early.They are part of this big organization and everybody abides by the rules,like any other organization.It will be unfair for Obama and Edward because they didn't campaign there live alone their names were not even on the ballots.Hillary was so desperate,that she had to break the rules and go and show up and these places.I suppose she didn't give two hoots about the Democratic Party.To end this letter,the Democratic Party should do the same to her.

Personally, being from Florida, and having already voted for the person of our choice, I think they should COUNT the ballots instead of penalizing us further by having a re-vote. We know who we wanted then, and we know who we want now. COUNT OUR VOTES. Who cares when votes are done? Just because the National Party wants to dictate states' political decisions? I think NOT!!!

W. B. Douglas and wife--Proud to be for Hillary

FloridaFrost

I just read your articulate and knowledgeable reply to KcM re: delegates/superdelegates. Excellent post!

I'm a Clinton supporter and just want to say that I don't know that a Clinton/Obama ticket will work, particularly with Obama's followers. From what I've read here and elsewhere, there is a lot of animosity against Hillary Clinton (and there are signs that "racism" is rearing its ugly head again in this group, even around discussions of a joint ticket). And I think this is all being driven by "talking heads" in the media -- including progressives.

I am also growing increasingly concerned about the "will of the people" mantra that keeps resurfacing among Obama followers, but without some context re: caucuses, which are not true representations of the will of the people, but only those who are able to attend at a certain date and time.

In short, there seems to be a runaway talking points train at the moment with little attention to "pesky" details, but very high on emotional fuel.

Thanks for your very sane posts!

This year will be remembered as a year when the purpose of the primaries changed from merely nominating the candidates for the fall, to competition among the states for the most attention, the most fame, the most influx of advertising dollars. The decision to maintain primacy for Iowa and New Hampshire was sustained, and further manipulation led to a very small group of party leaders handpicking Nevada and South Carolina as somehow more "representative" than other states. The only solution to this whole convoluted, Rube Goldbergish system is to have a national primary on the same day in every state. That, it appears to me, is the only way to remove the new focus on the competition among the states. It also, as a side benefit, would not leave the candidates and the voters totally exhausted by this nonsensical system that is longer than the NFL football season.

There is a reason why the two sides not are enthusiastic about a do-over. Hillary like a football coach doesn't want to take what she considers to be two wins off the table and Obama doesnt want to run in two primaries one of them Florida, which is closed and prohibits crossover and independent voting. A do-over is inevitable because those political super delegates will want to know the way the wind is blowing before voting and because the citizens of those two states deserve to have their votes counted. Its not their fault the party leaders in those states are idiots. After its completed Obama will still probrably lead in pledged delegates and be short of the magic number needed to win the nomination and Hillary will be behind in pleged delegates but most likely have surpassed Obama in popular votes. Unless someone can convince the two sides to combine, which is unlikely, the contest will split the party. The super delegates will just have to earn their status and endure the wrath of the side they don't choose. The best part is they have to make their choice in public so expect a lot of people to be putting bags on their heads. If that doesn't get the Democarts to scrap the undemocratic super delegate system and those hybrid caucus-primary states nothing will.