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Most commenters on this thread seem to want to disenfranchise Michigan and Florida. This is fundamentally unfair with the potential for political fallout. Imagine the Republicans telling voters of those two states, "Democrats don't believe in counting your votes." Especially after the "count every vote" mantra in Florida in 2000 this will look hypocritical. Rules such as the ones not seating MI and FL delegates made by the DNC are provisional subject to ratification of the convention. Party rules also say the convention can override the DNC. It is not the fault of the voters in those states that their leadership bucked the rules and they should not be punished. Why all the threats to leave the party if the procedural issues don't go your way? Party membership is about philosophy and and public policy, not internal procedures. Are you all of sudden going to agree more with McCain on the issues? Enough of the Clintons will do anything to win line. They are skilled politicians, which is why Bill is the only successful Democratic nominee in the past two decades.