Letters to the Editor
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bias in the media
Sounds word for word like bill o'reilly. Her supporters are republcains (old ladies northern mexican republcain red raggers) anyway so it works out.
The gop is sabotaging the democratic party. Would bush have gotten away withhis criminality without clinton to point to the last 8 years? No. If clinton wins the gop is running against itself. Burn the candle at both ends I suppose.
That is not america. That is not freedom. That is slavery. Where the gop picks both candidates. you may win in the short term. But think abou thte future.
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@ peeps
First, allow me to say that if you have never used misognistic language that I have never called you a misogynist. Nor do I believe people who support Senator Obama are misogynists. In general, I believe people's reasons for supporting Obama are as complex as people's reasons for supporting Clinton. I had not even declared my support for Senator Clinton here at Salon when someone, apropo of nothing that I could see accused me of perhaps harboring racism in my heart because I criticized Senator Obama. I defended myself vigorously. Just as you can support Obama without being sexist, I can support Clinton without being racist.
The fight I refer to in my letter to doloresflowers is about the fight of the right against progressive values and our need to fight back. One of the progressive values that the right despises is feminism. I think it is incumbent upon true progressives to support feminism. I think it is important that we fight back on that particular front and on many others. I see Senator Clinton as fighting the good fight on many fronts and I see her as being an especially tough and effective fighter.
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Rubber, meet road
Recent surveys present the road to the rubber:
Time (435 LV, Feb 1-4, MOE 5 % probably)
Hillary Clinton 46%
John McCain 46%
Barack Obama 48%
John McCain 41%
Rasmussen Reports (900 LVs, Feb. 4-7, MOE +/- 4%):
Hillary Clinton 43%
John McCain 46%
Barack Obama 47%
John McCain 42%
Obama does not have the huge reservoir of REALLY ACTIVE dislike that Hillary has.
You can deny it however you wish, but Hillary has a huge problem with VOTERS.
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Clinton leadership?
"There are many people who want Clinton leadership back in office because they want people who they know - know how - to fix our country for now and for our future, and get us back in excellent shape again."
Whoa, there's a concept. Clinton leadership? Ha.
During the 8 years of Bill, we had some good times. But the bad things WAY overwhelmed the good.
In American life, you do not get do-overs. Clinton does not get a do-over. He bunged his 8 years by his own personal failure. That gave the VRWC the opening.
We had Clinton leadership once. Once was enough.
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@ Suniya Luthar
Thank you very much for posting your insightful letter about Hillary Clinton and our attitudes towards women as mothers.
Although it is not about mothers, I do wish you could tell me why on earth we elected George W. Bush twice? I never once wanted to have a beer with him. People have talked about his charisma, but I have never seen a shred of it. I am one of those peculiar women who actually thought John Kerry was compellingly sexy.
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DeeperTruth, be very careful about what you're saying
"She the most qualified candidate running to govern our country. Sexism is more insidious than racism."
---No, she's not. Neither is Obama. There are plenty of other people in Congress with a lot more experience and who are more solidly liberal than these two (and, as I've made clear, I'm an Obama supporter). If it were up to me, I'd rather see someone like Patrick Leahy become president.
---It's stupid trying to compare sexism and racism. It's like asking someone if they would rather have a broken leg or a broken arm. Don't try this because it will get you nowhere.
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100% correct
"--It's stupid trying to compare sexism and racism. It's like asking someone if they would rather have a broken leg or a broken arm. Don't try this because it will get you nowhere."
I am DAMNED if we are going to select the president based on who is more discriminated against. It is wrong wrong wrong to make any decisions based on who DESERVES to gain the POTUS based on prior suffering. That direction is wrong, but is a traditional approach prefered by some - if you have suffered, you gain in Karma. Sort of a buddhist approach, but not one likely to gain favor with the evangelicals.
We do NOT want to select the President by looking for the 5 large wounds of christ or any wounds. We need to select the POTUS based on ability.
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aka smith - Clinton and motherhood
Thanks so much for your kind words. I must confess, I have never tried to analyze why some people say they are personally drawn to the current president; as far as I'm concerned, he is in the past.
I'm much more preoccupied with what happens in the future. And I was moved to submit my thoughts on Clinton partly because so many of my own colleagues -- senior women professors -- resonated with an early draft of my essay, also having felt vaguely uneasy about her without understanding why.
Again, I do hope that we will think through our respective feelings of personally "disliking" or "liking" particular candidates -- and will ultimately vote based on their records, and on their promise for the future -- Suniya.
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to akasmith
I agree that it is wrong to ascribe a vote not in favor of Obama to racist motives (without of course, actually knowing for sure that there are racists motives.)
Agreed that a vote against Hillary is not mysogynist (unless of course, one actually knows one is a mysogynist.)
And for that reason, I beleive it is wrong to attribute complex pop psych sociological reasons to others if one does not know what someone's reasons are, or simplistic reasons for that matter.
I'm not saying that is you, this is just a general observation around here.
May Hillary Clinton prove to be the leader that you envision her to be.
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@ SocsandTwigs
So you can't be passionately opposed to the war in Iraq and the direction that neocon policy has taken (and Hillary would continue) without being a "Hillary hater"?
Of course you can. I am passionately opposed to the war in Iraq myself. I am also passionately devoted to the cause of universal health care, disability rights, and children's rights. I don't even hate George W. Bush. Hating is mostly a waste of time.
What I am referring to are those people who hate Hillary Clinton and her war vote so much that they will simply not vote for her in the General Election or who are vulnerable to casting their votes for a third party candidate. That sort of stand upon principle would have the effect of biting off one's nose to spite one's face, as my mother used to say.
I think Hillary Clinton is just as likely to get us out of Iraq as Barack Obama is, which is to say that I don't think either of them will entirely extricate us from Iraq and the dangers of our continuing involvement there.
Concerning torture, Clinton has declared waterboarding to be torture.
I could go on, but I think your posts are offensive at times because, not only are they blantantly pro-Hillary, but they also include these subtle, but blanket condemnations and characterizations of Obama supports.
Gee whiz, since I am a Clinton supporter, what did you expect? Of course I am pro-Hillary. I don't condemn Obama supporters for supporting Obama; unlike many of them, I will vote Democratic whatever the outcome of the nominating process. I sometimes condemn them for not showing loyalty to Democratic causes. Well gee whiz, I am a Democrat.
My examination (not condemnation) of the Hillary-hating phenomena was a bit of intellectual musing, a sort of what on earth is wrong with these people thinking aloud. Frankly, I think most Hillary-haters are a bit unhinged. I don't think all Obama supporters are Hillary-haters.
SocsandTwigs, since I have you attention could you post a link to one very lengthy, fiery, and public speech that Barack Obama has given that is entirely devoted to his opposition to the war? Since you see him as the antiwar candidate, can you list those public rallys or protests that he has attended in which opposition to the war was the sole purpose? Can you tell me when he appeared with Cindy Sheehan in opposition to the war? Can you list the times at which he has been jailed for his public war protests, as many people around the country have been jailed?
Just asking.