Letters to the Editor
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@zoetrope1...
I forgot to add this to my earlier post:
Should we find that the "label all Hillary dissenters as Hillary-haters" plan starts to back fire, be sure to portray us as the victims of mean-spirited attackers.
Yes, I know this a bold, new strategy that has never, ever been employed, especially by us... BUT I REALLY THINK IT'S WORTH A SHOT.
let me know what you think, ok?
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To Davedavis - clarification.
Ha, ha. Posted the Q&A thing before I even read your comment on my thank-you to Diane B. So, no, that was NOT a response to your comment.
Ah, this online back-and-forth can be a confusing business, hey?
However, I did post another comment in response to your reacting to my thank-you note to Diane B. I was addressing Diane B and other Hillary supporters, so why did you respond to that, by the way?
Bye for now. Do behave while I'm gone.
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Are You People Serious?
Yes, the MSNBC commentators are NOT objective. Not a one.But, neither is Wolf, anyone on CNN or Joan Walsh. You can clearly see that all commentators on the Cable News shows ARE biased. They do not report objectively.
As for the adoration of Obama, so what? I think some people are genuinely excited about his prospects if he were to be elected President. If the nominees are Clinton/McCain, as of right now, McCain WILL win. Ignore all the talking points on the right. There is more to this than what is going on. By creating this sense of outrage, it could actually help independents vote for McCain, those that don't want extreme right control of our government. And, if Clinton is the nominee, the entire extreme right WILL show up and WILL vote for McCain. What's more, there is a good chunk of progressives who WILL NOT VOTE for Hillary, mainly because of her war stance.
If the nominees are Obama/McCain, the alignments will be different, but just about everybody under 30 will show up and vote for him. Middle road independents will lean more towards Obama and hard core conservatives will stay home. Obama wins.
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Everything has it's time and place
Zoetrope, I am indeed calling you out for fundraising on a discussion board. A heartfelt thank you is better done in private, but more to the point, it's entirely irrelevant to this discussion. This isn't the place. Unless the goal is to encourage other people...
To the extent that it bears on the campaign, I couldn't resist making the obvious point. Thank you for noting the significance of private campaign funding however... While I in no way equate money with votes (if that were true Mitt Romney would be our leader!), I would urge you to look at the sources of money already spent. Obama's money came almost entirely from people like Diane, donating similar sums, while HRC larded up by maxing out big donors. Where I live (Ohio) she's been through twice, creating traffic problems while she speaks privately to groups of megarich donors, then it's back on the jet and outta here. I'm glad you're impressed that after maxing out her corporate sharehol...er stakeholders, she's lowered herself to asking regular people to keep her hopes alive. She burned through more money than anyone in history in 2007, and now shes' broke. Poor Hill.
If she runs the country like she runs her campaign we're doomed. She started off with an unbeatable hand, and has managed to play it to a draw! She had more money, more party support (still does in terms of endorsements), more name recognition, and more press opportunities than any candidate on either side. After blowing every opportunity, she (and her supporters) simply slide back into this victimhood BS. This Clinton tactic was already old in 2000. In 2008 it's just cynical and sad.
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I just made my contribution for Hillary....
I just made my contribution for Hillary and I hope every democrat who really cares about the economy, the war and the children do the same.
This is not a game, but the media is really making it look like that.
This is a very serious decision and no one should be just voting because they are the same color or gender.
But I will say; women need to rise up. We have been walked on for too long. We were the last people in this country to be allowed to vote. It was always the white man who controlled us and then it was the white and black man.
Wake up Women!!!
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@ eeave1
You are both wrong and right. You said that a backlash may begin against Obama and his supporters attitudes concerning women. Actually, I am part of the backlash and my turn about came much earlier. I could see that my candidate, John Edwards, was fading early. I felt some grief about this, but I knew that I would have to choose another candidate. I am a 62 year old woman and early retired. I am recently widowed. I am not rich but I am not poor. I am comfortable and have time on my hands. I have looked around for some place to make a contribution.
I read these threads. I pay attention to what people say about their candidates. What I noticed was that the Obama campaign was all about youth and that his defenders could get rowdy and rude, especially they seemed to say, we can do it without the group that Hillary is drawing. We can do it without those older women.
So I decided to let them do it without me. I became a Hillary supporter. Her supporters don't make fun of my age. Her supporters don't say rude things about women. She has had a lifetime of making an effort for ordinary people from her earlier period of child advocacy.
Then here in this very thread there is a writer making fun of the fact that Hillary's campaign needs money. He is crowing about how much money Obama has raised and how Hillary is having to dip into her own funds. It is clear to me. Obama doesn't need me. His campaign doesn't even want me.
I have a lifetime of going where I am needed. So I will do that. I am grateful to the person who pointed out Hillary's current fundraising drive. I feel needed, so I will contribute. In my states primary later on I will drive my aged mother to the polls and she and I will cast our votes for the woman who will become President of the United States. I feel so proud and excited.