Letters to the Editor
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@ soopergrover
I agree with you.
As one of the "Clintonistas" (is a male Hillary supporter a "Clintonisto"?) what I don't like about Obama is his two-faced campaign. When you listen to him speak, his politics are on a higher plane, he will bring Republicans and Democrats together, the lion will lie down with the lamb. On the other hand, his campaign, and his surrogates (yes, he has them too) can be as nasty as they want to be.
The good news is that he can use his sharp elbows like the rest of them.
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@"Anonymous"
Clarification: by Black voters, I meant those who publicly interpreted (Bill) Clinton's comments about Obama as having racial overtones... and then of course (Bill, again) Clinton actually making racially-charged comments after Hillary lost the SC primary, trying to paint Obama as the "black" candidate.
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Joan Walsh is over in Oakland listening to Ted Kennedy sing his ode to Obama
That doesn't sound like something a Hillary Clinton supporter would do. Berkeley is Obama-land. She gets caught wearing a Hillary button over there, it's curtains.
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Garry
Why? Because there are (gasp) black people there?
Or because (swallow) 70s funk band Tower of Power has gone thug, and pro-Obama?
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Oh Garry...
Your nannynannybooboo playground antics are so very entertaining. I'm sure you're a hit at preschool. They sure give you a lot of time to play on the computer, don't they?
And why am I not surprised that you have an in-depth personal attachment to proctology.
Now it's time for you to put away your "How to Be Just Like Bill Clinton When I Grow Up" pop-up book (with the big words spelled out), and let us adults continue the conversation.
So Garry, while I find you so delightful, other threads need you. There are many needy threads for you to derail, non-sequiturs for you to issue, and topics ripe for your trolling.
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@ mjkoch
The Democrats beating the Republicans is my motive. I also would prefer that they would do it with a viable health care plan that will be of benefit to me. I am not yet retirement age where I can collect Social Security and benefit from Medicare but I have prexisting conditions making insurance unaffordable for me at any but an insanely unreasonable price.
As we age disability and serious health problems become more frequent. For some of us fifty ain't the new forty but more like 60. I don't want to become a burden to my daughter. Hence, health care is my very top priority. I know I won't get it from a Republican.
Both remaining candidates need to do a better job of explaining how their programs would actually work. If I cannot afford health care and I desperately need it and have to go to the emergency room, what should I do to avoid backpayments? Shoot myself?
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Great, now I'm feeling torn again
See, as a medical marijuana patient, I have a lot of experience being at the mercy of medical expenses. Thank God I have insurance!
So that makes me want to vote for Clinton.
On the other hand, as a medical marijuana patient, I have a lot of experience with being scapegoated, lied about, abused, treated like an object and having my life threatened by the War on Drugs and its various supporters.
So that makes me want to vote for Obama.
Hmmmmmm.
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@ AKA Smith
I'm with you. I see affordable health care as the only way working class americans (like myself) can ever stay self-supporting in the new global economy.
I don't understand the differences in the two plans. Obama says his is optional, but that there will be back-premiums to pay if you get sick.
According to Bloomberg.com penalties for not carrying insurance could be up to "3,000" to entice healthy twenty somethings to pay into the system. Massachusettes "exempted" 60,000 residents from "mandated" insurance requirements after deciding they didn't earn enough to buy private coverage and made too much to qualify for government subsidies." This year in Massachusettes, the penalties increase for not being in the plan(they began by making people loose their state personal tax exemption, worth $219).
I wish that I could understand the specifics of both policies before really making a decision.
Here's the bloomberg article for what it's worth:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aLweLB1D6ehQ&refer=us#
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@ -- mjkoch
Exactly.
That is also why I am so supportive of Obama. I truly believe that we as Americans are sick and tired of all of the pertisan garbage we've been wading through for the past sixteen years or so (this includes the acrimony of our current administration and the constant mudslinging of the Clinton administration).
Obama represents a way forward. An optimistic true fresh start for our nation - which is what we desperately need. As good as things were under Bill Clinton, the partisan acrimony won't go away under Hillary- it'll be the same or worse.
As for Obama bridging the partisan divide- it is already happening. I have family members in Denver who saw Obama speak earlier this week. It was an overflow crowd- a major indoor stadium filled to capactiy, the gymnasium next door with a video screen filled with a few thousand more AND people standing outside in the parking lot to listen. And this is in a RED state. That's pretty amazing.
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WTF? Obama's mailer has a point
Clinton forces everyone to buy insurance, Obama does not.
It is a difference.
I got that mailer BEFORE the debate (actually I've gotten like 6-7 mailers from Obama. From Clinton? Zero).
I think Obama's plan is more realistic to get passed. You can't call it "socialized medicine" if people don't have to buy in to it.
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Towah of Powah! Now you're talkin' Gams!
Bump City!
Down To The Night Club!
You're Still A Young Man, baaaay-bee, Oh yeah!
Now you done made me nostalgic. Platform shoes and polyester shirts, coke spoons and Kool Cigarettes.
Don't gimmie none-a that funky shit man!
Hey hey!
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What's a Clinton supporter to say?
I'm now torn between wanting to point out (for like my zillionth time in Salon postings) how NOT the candidate of change Mr. Obama really is but, on the other hand, feeling a little relieved that, in the unlikely event he is the Democratic nominee, he at least has someone in his campaign who knows how to try to win in November.
But, sadly, Harry and Louise died while waiting for their insurance company to approve organ transplants.