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Wednesday, January 9, 2008 12:00 AM

The comeback chick

Hillary Clinton defeats Obama, Edwards and her media critics.

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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:27 PM

The oldest trick in the book

Hillary employed the oldest trick in the book by women: the boo hoo strategy. It works 9 out of 10 times. I know - I'm a woman and I have resorted to this at times - it's a survival thing, literally sometimes. But to use it in politics is lame.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:42 PM

Maybe all will be better campaigners now

I mean Clinton, Edwards and Obama, I don't care about the republicans, except that they lose.

Even though I wasn't necessarily going to vote for Clinton, it really was bothering me that it seemed it was already over for her after Iowa. I'm glad it's not. I hope it's not over for Edwards. While losing sucks for anyone, I'm sure, these primary losses are only skirmish losses, and all of them have a chance to learn and to make themselves the best candidate possible. Strangely, when it seemed that Obama was going to be the democratic candidate, I was not happy with that, because despite some impassioned support from people here and elsewhere, I don't quite trust him, reading his positions and hearing his speeches weren't enough. Now, however, he'll have to be much more solid, and if he wins, I know that I'll be able to completely enthusiastic in voting for him in the general election, as I will be for either Edwards or Clinton. They'll have really earned their place.

I'm hoping that all 3 candidates will focus on substance and fight the real enemies we have to face at home, the neocon kooks running on the republican side, and not each other. Then, someday, I hope the republicans come to their senses and bring rationality back into their lives, but I fear, that will happen no time soon.

So, if you're an Edwards supporter, a Clinton supporter or an Obama supporter, make your case without trashing the other candidates. That won't make the case for you, it'll just piss off someone for no good reason. It's OK to point out what's true or not true, but I'm tired of stupid projection like "Clinton is a cold blah-blah-blah" or "Obama is a slick blah blah blah" or "Edwards is_____" (you get the picture). Debate and point out actual facts, not feelings, it's too important to get bogged down in claptrap.

--Ron Robertson

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:44 PM

Actually anonymous

You have no way of knowing whether it was a trick or not. It'd be one thing if you said you have your doubts, but being so definite about it brings out the contrarian in me, since you're being definite about something you have no way of knowing.

Even if you're right, I don't think it's terribly important, do you?

--Ron Robertson

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:45 PM

The reason Hilary won

As soon as I heard that a lot of older folks turned out to vote, and that their number one issue is the economy, I was worried for Obama. People remember "it's the economy, stupid" as such a big part of Clintonism. There are a lot of negatives about the Clinton era, but the economy was better than it is today. Of course, I realize the gender factor is also big, but I'm surprised I haven't seen more analysis about this issue. Can Obama campaign more strongly on the economy? What do you think?

Lee

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:47 PM

yeah, great

We finally get a candidate who can win men and indies -- Obama -- and are set to nominate Hillary Clinton. You do realize she'll get crushed by Saint McCain the Good, don't you? All the NH women who sent their 'message' to the big mean men and media who made poor Hillary cry had better enjoy this moment. I hope they'll enjoy the next Alito and Scalia that McCain puts on the court, and the 100 years in Iraq.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:52 PM

If Hillary had lost or even come second...

Her race would have been over. As it is, her "Firewall state" came uncomfortably close to voting Obama.

Sadly, I think this is very near to being the end of Edwards. Unless he actually starts winning these races he should probably put his backing behind Obama.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:54 PM

and also ...

Her Iran vote "tried to fend off GOP slurs of being soft on terror"? You deliver that bit of news like it's okay, Joan; just a tactical thing. There's someone who stands on principle all right. Not buying into bullshit GOP frames or anything. How on earth can Democrats support this person? I hope to hell Edwards drops out because he has no shot; but he won't ... ego knows no bounds. So again, circumstance, idiot voters and rampant me-before-countryism will give us, bascially, Bush's third term.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:54 PM

the Yankee is self-reliant and libertarian, but the Yankee is a bigot too

(on the british model - snide, not vulgar). he (or she) doesn't like blacks jews or non-mainline protestant christians. i am an obama supporter but i really couldn't believe the polls (yesterday i wrote a friend, "i am hoping to be proved wrong, but i can't imagine new hampshire voting for a black" - unfortunately it proved true). Yes, *both* the polls and the results can be correct. one politically, the other actually.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:56 PM

On Bill: "he's been a drag on the campaign at times"

AT TIMES? AT TIMES?

Joan, he is a disaster! She should drop kick him back to New York. It as if he thinks her candidacy is his and that it is 1992. The problem, as I see it, is that he cannot campaign in the role of a former president and her husband at the same time. That he is former President of the United States Bill Clinton fills him with the thirst (hubris!) to be treated at all times with the respect due that position and and to demand the same for her by extension. That is what comes across as arrogant.

Send him home. Let him appear more sporadically as he has done in the past. Pull him out only with those constituencies with whom he has an established rapport. Don't let him wander around, as he did in New Hampshire, getting in an exchange of words with Ron Paul supporters. He needs to learn to play the smiling, nodding spouse rather than the advocate. Women have done this for years. Why can't he?

Wednesday, January 9, 2008 12:00 AM

On Bill: "he's been a drag on the campaign at times"

At times? Are you kidding me? 99% of Hillary's appeal comes from Democrats frustrated with the 25th Amendment.

Honestly, except for NAFTA, I'd take Bill Clinton back in a heartbeat and so would 95% of Hillary's supporters.

Leave Bill Alone! You're lucky he does anything for you.

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