Letters to the Editor
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Officially Done with Salon
Barack Obama makes a ground breaking speech on race, Joan bashes him. Barack Obama makes another speech about ending the war Hillary helped start and instead Joan chooses to apologize for Hillary.
ENOUGH!
Hillary voted for a war that has killed 4,000 Americans and god knows how many Iraqis. By proxy she has much a murderer as George Bush is. So she feels bad about being complicit in murder and destroying a nation. Many murderers do when they get caught.
I stopped subscribing to Salon when it got lame, and now that it has gone from Lame to being an orifice of the Clinton campaign I don't even have to bother with reading it. Call me Salon, when Joan Walsh gets her pink slip.
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This is the risk you took turning a 2 year election process into one single solitary issue
"Iraq".
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"at a time everyone thought Iraq had WMD"
The only ones who thought Iraq had WMD, were those who were listening to Ahmed Chalabi instead of the people who had actually been to Iraq and had looked for WMDs. Scott Ritter had been actively speaking around the country telling us that there were no WMDs. The UN inspectors who were on the ground at the time were telling us that there were no WMDs.
I will concede that there might have been reasons to support a war resolution (perhaps you thought it was a big bluff by the administration). But, if you say you supported a war resolution because you thought there were WMDs, you exhibit only poor judgement.
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How a Democrat Can Win the Presidency
H. Clinton is attempting to win-over moderate Republicans from an existing pool of voters. This strategy will result in the type of elections we had in '00 and '04 - near stalemates with no clear national concensus and much bickering about the real winner. B. Obama is attempting to bring new voters to the booths - the young, the disenfranchised, the disgruntled, and those looking for new hope. This is the way a Democrat can win an election. Clinton's positions - past and present - on Iraq have little to do with liberal philosophy and have more to do with swing votes. But there are only so many swing votes compared with the millions of Americans waiting to cast a vote for the first time or return to the polls after many years of disgust. Clinton's campaign is in the mold of Gore and Kerry and so is destined to failure. She will not apologize for her war position because she doesn't want to risk a few votes. What she doesn't realize is that she is sacrificing a much larger slice of the pie to Obama.
Oh, and nelsondenoon, it's called an editioral for a reason. It's the Editor's opinion - which by definition is biased. It's how the editor defends the opinion that's important.
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The Problem With The Obama Contingent
Is they don't only cry during and after his speeches, they're always crying.
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Why I did not vote for HIllary
I am a 62 year old woman and a feminist and a long time Democrat. Iraq was only a small factor in my decision to vote for Obama over Hillary, even though I was pretty appalled to see the Democrats get caught up in patriotic fever in 2002.
I voted for Obama because I see him as building a future for our party. Hillary represents the divisive past. We need new leadership in the Democratic party and Obama will bring the "down" vote we need in the congressional races in 2008.
Hillary did not just vote to go into Iraq, she spoke out for it, and played politics with the issue, thinking we would have have victory by the time she ran for president. She has flipped ,flopped on the Iraq issue and now is promising a rash 60 day pull out. While Obama has always stated he would have a gradual pull out. I also have more confidence in Obama's approach to foreign relations..diplomacy, not "tough" politics
Hillary's Iraq vote was not the only "republican lite" vote she made in her 7 year legislative career, and that is the main reason I did not vote for her. She is not a progressive, she a centrist. My biggest problem with Hillary now is she IS running on the gender issues. Up until the Wright explosion, Obama was not running on race, but the issues. Everyone else was inserting it into the campaign. Now that race it has become a big issue, Obama gave what many consider a historical speech on the race issue.
I have to wonder, why a this Wright got so much attention, but Obama's press conference last week with all the retired generals who disagreed with our invasion Iraq, got very little attention in the press.
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Joan, you can't win.
Here's how I know you're not biased: most Hillary supporters don't care that she hasn't said, in so many words, "I'm sorry." She's said she regrets it, she's said she wouldn't do it again knowing what she knows now, she's explained her reasoning, and it's good enough. We're more concerned with who's better prepared to end the war, and that is Hillary, bu any objective measure.
But unless you denounce and reject everything Hillary Clinton - and Bill - have ever done for his country, the very real and plentiful good things as well as the bad, along with a metric shitload of stuff they never did but get blamed for anyway, you will be perceived as a Clinton supporter. This is what the Obamaloons require, plus maybe a loyalty oath and getting "Obama Rules" tattood on your forehead.
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I Trusted Bush
When HRC faced her "Commander-in-Chief" moment instead of doing her job and questioning the President, she did not even bother to read the NIE - despite Sen. Grahams' warning that the NIE was a devastating critic of Bush's war arguments. Instead she relied on Mr. Bush's honesty and competence.
Some won't vote for her because they do not believe her to be honest. I can not vote for her because I do believe her to be competent.
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Quite revealing editorial
The reason you wrote such a dissapointing piece about Barack's incredible speech on race yesterday, was because instead of allowing yourself to ponder his words, to think about your place in this country and your role in maintaing the racial stalemate Obama described, you were thinking "if only Hillary would give a speech too?" Are you serious?
The speech yesterday spoke to all kinds of thinking people, immigrants, Blacks, Whites, Asians and on on. Everyone that has spent time trying to make sense of the world and their place in it and maintain the hope that they could make a difference in making this country better. The speech didn't touch you at the core, like it touched most people, because you were thinking, where is Hillary's speech? That is really sad!
