Camille is the best!

Note: if one sends a letter to the WH with this content: a 'joke' about stoning X and all their kin....they would be entertaining the Secret Service in their home within a few days as the Secret Service riffled through every room, harrang friends and family alike...

And this is as the result of a 'private' letter...not something broadcasted throughout the nation!!

Since when was it OK to incite murder on national TV? The First Amendment ISN'T cover for this...try telling that to the Secret Service when they knock at the door!! Just as it isn't cover to shout "FIRE" in public when there is no fire...

Every 'right' has LIMITS...incitement to murder or inducing a public panic that may cause deaths are just the clearest and most famous examples. We DO have Libel Laws!!...We DO have Slander Laws!! along with Laws that protect people from other people attempting to incite a third person to kill them!! Baldwin should have had a very scary visit right after that show from some VERY SERIOUS people...and then found himself up on charges. The excuse that we didn't want to make it seem that we were living in a 'police state' doesn't fly...Not only did he cross the line in LAW, but the result of ignoring what he did is the low-life muck we see now. When we accepted the whine that it was too 'hard' to prove Libel or Slander when dealing with someone with a public profile...and then accepted the same excuse extended to their family...we opened the door for the Swamp-Slime People to ooze into the Public Square.

Excellent post! If more media outlets would do some research and inform the citizens of this country exactly what the community organizer in chief and his Democrat SS corps in Congress have planned for us, maybe we wouldn't be looking at a bleak future as we are now. Free enterprise, self reliance, and minimal government interference got us to a great point in world history. For the last 50 or so years, the left wing Marxists have been trying to destroy our Republic from within.

Dinky wrote:

I'm new to Salon. Can someone tell me, judging by the responses to Camile's article, unless the article is on Drudge, are faggots and lesbos the only ones who read Salon?

-- DinkyDow

You forgot hard core Marxists, Communists and egotistical Ivory tower types full of self importance.

and head right to the letters that follow - they're the best thing about her appearances here.

...Camille wrote that Bush could "...be a brilliant president"

Since then I just skip her articles & read the letters.

I bet Sarah could be just as brilliant a president as Bush was.

Camille knows how to pick 'em!

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I cannot believe I used to defend this woman's intelligence and relevance.

I keep clicking and scanning, hoping this time maybe she won't make my eyes bleed.

But it just gets worse every time.

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A great post. May I engage on the second-to-last paragraph and say that neither side can claim the title for being 'over the top' from what I read? And maybe there is a vein here we can puruse. What we need to do as people is build results, whether social, economic, health, technology, foreign relations/policy, etc that are mutually agreed to be an improvement or progress without the requirement that it be owned by either side. There is too much fighting to control others' activity, freedom or rights in the name of a supposed "good" where it seems that the "good" is really subordinate to the desire to "control". If we make a good timepiece, does it matter how we make it as long as we do it ethically? For example, I am sure there are ways to provide everyone with health care without the method having to be purely capitalistic or socialistic. I distrust 'grand design' solutions in all realms and favor constant improvement based upon trial and error, and learning from experience. This is how mankind has progress, in fact. We need to relax, step back, and realize that we are always on the road to a better future and stop treating it as some grand contest that must produce a victor and a vanquished today.

Riverhill: "You make my point. You think a lot of yourself and little of others."

You don't have a point. And nothing in my post supports your statement above. (In person, I am fairly humble -- I said what I said to defend against your accusation, not to claim superiority.)

If you have something substantial to say, let's hear it. Sounds to me like you think you've got all the answers.

"I think Palin should have stuck it out, but of course she is master of her own fate. What certainly was blameworthy was the chaotic and rushed statement itself."

For Paglia, what matters is style and the highest human value is charisma. The substance here is that Palin is defrauding the voters who thought they were electing HER, not the lieutenant governor, for four years; she is quitting like a quitter in the middle of her job. If Obama resigns after two years to make way for Joe "Motor Mouth" Biden because the presidency isn't fun any more and Letterman makes jokes about him, then I will justifiably feel that he is irresponsible and lied to me. But I suppose I can always say, with Paglia, that of course he is master of his own fate, and that what really matters is whether the STATEMENT HE MAKES on that occasion is ultra cool and shows the mastery of spin we expect from a political superstar, or is "chaotic and rushed," demonstrating he has fallen from the only kind of grace that Paglia recognizes.

I do not mind that Paglia is, or attempts to be, a commentator on style. It is her perennial belief that style IS substance that I find alarming and degrading.