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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:00 AM

Can Palin ever come back?

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:38 AM

Enough!

Okay, we get it. You want to fuck Sarah Palin. And you seem to think that being obnoxious and clueless is some sort of badge of intellectual honor. Maybe Joan Walsh agrees with you, since I can't imagine what other reason she'd have for keeping you around. I continue to subscribe to Salon despite you, but sometimes I wonder why.

God, you're annoying. Back to my killfile you go!

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:41 AM

I'll never make THAT mistake again!

I clicked on this article accidentally. Now I know (kind of) who Camille is, and I will never read anything else by her on Salon or elsewhere. She's a moron. Her letters appear to be fake, on weird topics that she wants to babble about (almost as incoherently as Palin, but she uses bigger words).

I won't lobby for her removal from Salon, but I'd like to know ... if no one clicks on her, can the editors tell? Will she then go away?

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:41 AM

too long ... no good punch line

that was a joke, right? about the airheaded palin coming back? coming back from what?

it was funny for the first couple of paragraphs, but i can't stand you left wingnuts making fun of palin. it's like teasing the retarded kid in the neighborhood, and you remember what your mom did to you when she found out.

anyway, it's too long for me to read. go, sarah!

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:44 AM

-- arh0030

FYI Paglia is a lesbian.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:50 AM

I am beginning to think Camille likes negative attention

Because I cannot, for the life of me, think why she'd post a column such as this one on Salon.com. Really, Camille, you are better off at Fox News or some other conservative outlet.

For you to claim Palin 'cleaned Joe Biden's clock' during the VP debates tells me that either a) you and I live in completely different universes or b) you are finally acquiring dementia. Or, like I said above, you like negative attention.

Palin's folksy/cute act, along with the obnoxious winking during the debate, only confirmed my worst fears about her--that she is willing to use her female charms to mask a complete lack of credentials for the second-highest office in the land.

I have several of your books, Camille, and have been meaning to get to them. But, if your columns are any indication of your books, I'd just assume give them to the local library.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:55 AM

@ arh0030

Ms. Paglia is a lesbian, but she is a fire starter first. In her next column, she'll be telling you that only men with big, hairy bellies know how to make sweet love to lesbians.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:56 AM

OK, That Does It

"As a Democrat, I detest the partisan machinations that have become standard in Northeastern news management and that are detectable in editorial decisions at major metropolitan newspapers nationwide. It's why I, like a host of others, have shifted my news gathering to the Web."

I've seen enough: Camille Paglia, speaking as a life-long political skeptic and independent thinker who skews toward serious doubts about the current establishment, you have earned my unquenchable & utmost respect.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:17 PM

@bigguns

I may be gone; but I ain’t blind.

There’s nothing really new here.

To put it in today’s perspective, this is Ann Coulter with a phony pedigree. Uses the same shtick.

1. Throw out something outrageous, offensive or intellectually specious.

2. Egotistically marinate in the attention it generates.

3. Line up a greedy sucker to publish it.

Coulter is the latest, and less disingenuous, practitioner. Cammy is the originator who notices that it still works (at least on Salon).

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:20 PM

RE: Can Palin ever come back?

Ah, Camille is horny for Sara.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:31 PM

@Katymurta re: "Camille likes negative attention"

Bingo.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:33 PM

@GoodOne regarding Paglia's take on newspapers

"As a Democrat, I detest the partisan machinations that have become standard in Northeastern news management and that are detectable in editorial decisions at major metropolitan newspapers nationwide. It's why I, like a host of others, have shifted my news gathering to the Web."

The problem with the above quote is that Paglia conveniently leaves out the scores of major metropolitan newspapers that have conservative editorial boards.

Hell, even the New York Times banged the Iraq war drums.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:36 PM

@Riverhill

Riverhill: "What a great society you are building."

Your statement is near-pointless, but I think I get your sarcastic drift.

So I ask you, what the hell are you doing to build society?

I work for a living. I give money to charities. I create things. I support the lives of my friends and family. I am active in my community. I vote. I interact. I communicate. I contribute to society.

So what was your point again?

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:40 PM

@khpdave

khpdave: "Ok, I thought Biden looked like he was relieved when the ending bell rang."

I didn't see it that way. But in what version of reality does "looking relieved" translate into "losing the debate"?

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:41 PM

VP debate

Palin was at BEST adequate, and she benefited from absolutely horrid expectations. She still managed several grammatically and semantically incoherent strings of sound. She is profoundly lacking in every way, and deserves pity at best.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:46 PM

@Xrandadu Hutman

You make my point. You think a lot of yourself and little of others.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:49 PM

Facts, not memes

Clear evidence that Paglia has uncritically bought the media image of Palin vs. the reality of Palin arrives by the third sentence: "Given her success with finalizing the massive Alaska pipeline project, I think Palin should have stuck it out..."

This bullshit about the pipeline began with Palin's speech to the Republican National Convention when she said (that is, lied), "And when that deal was struck, we began a nearly 40 billion-dollar natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence."

There is no pipeline. There is no beginning of the pipeline, and there is no "finalizing" of the pipeline. There is merely an agreement for Alaska to give a Canadian company $500 million in seed money to look into building a pipeline, should any oil producers agree to supply the gas, and should all those pesky permits be approved. Two of those most important producers have started their own competing pipeline project. And Transcanada now will be sharing their half-mil with Exxon, the company that screwed over Alaskans in the Exxon Valdez settlement. They can walk away with that money without having shoveled any dirt.

Even if all goes well, that pipeline is at least 10 years away.

The "media" that Palin and Paglia blame for making her life hell are the same "media" that created the image of Palin as a mavericky, original, political genius. She is none of those things.

But understanding that would take research, not breezy opinions based on cotton candy reporting.

For what it's worth, this is the political and economic genius Paglia is so ga-ga over speaking to Time magazine recently:

"President Obama is growing government outrageously, and it's immoral and it's uneconomic, his plan that he tries to sell America. His plan to 'put America on the right track' economically, incurring the debt that our nation is incurring, trillions of dollars that we're passing on to our kids, expecting them to pay off for us, is immoral and doesn't even make economic sense."

Reads like a 7th-grader's answer to an essay question, doesn't it? A 7th-grader who forgot to study the night before.

Yeah, she cleaned Biden's clock all right.

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