Letters to the Editor
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A disaster for American intellectual life, indeed
I want to start off by saying thank you Ms. Paglia, for not talking down to your readers as though you were Plato on acid. I see you woke up to the fact that obscurity does not equal profundity. Now all you need to work on is being intellectually honest.
First, to say that Bush wasn't handed the presidency by Daddys friends on the court is a spit in the face to all sentient beings that walk the Earth. Bush would have been a pawn shop owner if it weren't for his father. Repeat after me: the election was stolen. You describe Bush as well-motivated after lying about Iraqs WMD's (mainly to enrich friends) and as he blithely destroys the Middle East. I think your articles would be better received if you finally admitted your contempt for the Democrats (you are well aware that President Gore would not have invaded Iraq), instead of posing as one. You are a Republican. Don't insult your readers intelligence.
...Fat chance! You then nitpick Al Gore's effort in raising awareness to protect the planet? You mean to say 2 billion people just participated in lies and propaganda over the weekend?!
You succumb to demeaning labels to insult people and it obviously reflects what you know to be true about yourself. Stop. Its embarassing.
I enjoy reading your articles like I enjoy watching the site of a car crash.
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@realname...
happy? Not especially.
We've tried reasonable argument. You seem impervious to that.
Your favorite rhetorical device seems to be empty-headed sarcasm, so I thought I'd try a little myself. It is distinctly dissatisfying. And calling you out as intellectually dishonest was hardly sarcasm. Just a simple fact, as any number of your troll-posts prove handily.
I dunno why I bother. I really don't. It's not like you're going to change your opinion about anything.
As a pure shot-in-the-dark, I'd guess you're a not-very-experienced 25-40 year-old-male who has trouble getting laid.
Anywhere close? Enlighten us. It might explain a few things...and if you're a 50-year-old CEO family-man, then my instincts are every bit as bad as I've often believed..
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oy.
i usually stick up for paglia, but this was way too many pages of snooze-fest for me.
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Taking my marbles and going home
>>the way to combat her or anybody you disagree with is not by taking your marbles and going home, but playing the game to the best of your ability.
I absolutely believe in free speech. Paglia can write whatever she wants, and I say more power to her. But for Salon to give her a significant amount of money (what if she's paid per word!?) when there are many other thoughtful voices out, liberal and conservative, but reasoned and not pulling facts out of their asses--that is their business decision. Which, as I noted, is not based on what the vast majority of people who are paying for subscriptions want, but is what the readers who are not supporting the site want. Which tells me they get more money from advertising revenue anyway, which tells me that they don't value or want my $40.
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The amazing, walking, talking Paglia Doll....I'm Talky Camille, and I don't like Al Gore!
After wading through six pages, I’ve concluded that Paglia has devolved into little more than a sanctimonious windbag. Her ‘views’ are as rigid and predictable as Bush’s after a point: I know more or less what she will say about global warming, radio talk show hosts, Madonna and her other pet issues as she bangs away at them like worn-out washbaords.
I’d be happier with a Paglia puppet or card-board cut out, and most likely just as enlightened. This is a waste of Salon’s capacity: reading about the late Lady Bird Johnson at the NYT was a welcome relief after Paglia’s latest ramblings. She's becoming more of a commodity and less of a thought provoker, and I'm almost surprised she hasn't marketed her own line of Grecian fashions or developed a line of make up, which she could use.
I used to enjoy her writing some years ago, but now I’m questioning why.
If I read any of her future musings, it will be out of sheer boredom or morbid curiosity.
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A true patriot would call out Bush for tippy-toeing around Pakistan...
Because Pakistan coddles Al Qaeda.
Read about how the U.S. aborted a raid on Al Qaeda leaders in 2005 so not to offend Pakistan. Little lefty blog I think.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288546,00.html
BONUS LAFFS!
Camile, how would you describe the Soviet Union?
Camile: "A mammoth entity."
Nailed it!
We also would have accepted "Gi-Normous thingy," and "Humongous country-ish type thing."
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@Ben Sen
I can only speak for myself.
I played "take away" with my lousy subscription because Salon was no longer worth paying for. I had already let my subscription lapse before Paglia made her return. After her return, I am even less likely to re-subscribe.
I don't know what you mean when you say "play the game to the best of your ability." Every month, letter-writer after letter-writer posts proof of Paglia's factual errors, inconsistencies, hypocrisies, self-aggrandizement, and navel-gazing. Yet every month she returns. It seems to me that merely pointing out the reasons I don't want to read Paglia is not enough. What then is left, besides voting with my money?
Would you stop patronizing a restaurant that insisted upon charging you for a dish that you do not want, do not order, and is so poorly prepared as to be inedible? Or would you keep coming back, go ahead and pay, and eat it anyway, because that means "playing the game to the best of your ability?"
It is not well-researched and well-argued opinions that are the issue here. It is incoherence, ineptitude, incorrectness and irrelevance that are the issue. I don't want to read this drivel. I am certainly not going to pay for it.
If that makes me "childish" then so be it.
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RealName Trolling
I sometimes wonder if RealName spends as much time at sites like Free Republic wagging his fingers at the echo chambers there as he does wagging them here at Salon, which is a much more open forum for differing opinions.
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Applause for James Comments...
Hands up to you James. Probably the most rational brief discourse I have read in years.
If We...the USA and our allies decide to ignore and take Camille's advice to mind our own business, this world would be in the toilet. Then the U.S. of A would have to be in lock downed state..nobody to be let in but our allies...maybe not a bad idea eh?
Lets use the funds, manpower, the minds and keep it in our own country...Take all the money spent on taking the lead in this fight against terrorism and DISORDER in this world and distribute back to the people here....WOW...already have the best society going..only to get better.. and screw everyone else!
I would expect the world in 20 years to be a complete disaster. World Order IS neccesary...or maybe you want to leave it up to the extremists to accomplish that task.
PUT that in your pipe and smoke it !
Thanks James....