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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Only the history and parts of the story that sell the product that you are selling should be made public and common knowledge. The dirty parts should be well hidden.
Who knew that Hitler helped found Israel?
Not exactly the kind of godfather you wnat people to know about, eh?
That is exactly why everything we know about this situation and everything the media and the establishment portray about this situation is suspect.
On other news, Alcohol prohibition wasn't done because of people drinking alcohol. It was done to prevent farmers from making their own fuel to power their trucks, tractors and cars with stills and to ensure that the makers of gasoline would have a monopoly onthe internal comopustion engine's fuels. AND THAT, is what caused the great depression. Farmers couldn't afford fuel, couldn't plow, couldn't pay mortgages, and then came the dust bowl to blow away the unplanted soil.
BUT STANDARD OIL MADE OUT LIKE A BANDIT!
Your history isn't worth the paper it is printed on.
And here we go!
Your query is a faulty one. Israel is not acting based on the "murder of four people". If the only action had been a Hamas suicide bomber that killed 4 or even 24 Israelis, the Israelis surely would not have attacked. Instead, Israel atttacked because of the incessant fire of rockets aimed at killing its civilians. In Sderot, for example, the people must always remain within 15 seconds of a shelter, for that is all the warning they can be expected to receive. If Hamas stopped firing rockets, there would have been no Israeli attack. Israel (and even Egypt) warned Hamas of the imminent attack for days, yet Hamas - sworn to destroy Israel - kept firing at Israeli citizens. No country would put up with that.
As for the 500 or so dead Palestinians, even Hamas admits that the vast majority of these - about 75% or so - are Hamas fighters. This is an incredible result for attacks against an organization that refuses to wear uniforms, hides its personnel and weapons in residential areas, and fires rockets into Israel from residential areas. Moreover, many of the dead civilians are the result of secondary explosions of rockets that Hamas has hidden in residential complexes and mosques. Hamas is to blame for these deaths, not Israel.
The fact of the matter is that Israel is doing everything it can to try to minimize civilian casualties while attempting to relieve itself from rocket fire. Hamas, on the other hand, uses Palestinians as chattel and human shields, hoping for more civilian casualities to show that Israel is somehow to blame.
Now it's Kathleen's turn to either mention the blockade, which is conveniently left out of the propaganda talking points of the Troll Army, or go after one of the other obvious half-truths that McFarland has dangled in front of her, AND BINGO! THE GAME IS ON!
The fact remains that you are wrong. Germany did not set up a "colony" in Palestine for all Jews to go to as you claim. As I said, Germany was British controlled. To the contrary, in 1933, through the Haavara Agreement, as it is properly called, a small number of Jews (that is all that could go) could leave Germany for Palestine IF THEY LEFT VIRTUALLY ALL THEIR POSSESSIONS in Germany. What a colony! What a nice people those Nazis were! Your point is well made! .
honorable for the Israeli war-machine to pound a heavily-populated place like Gaza for the eleventh day when its commanders knew full well that innocent lives would be lost and that child amputees will have to grow up not only with the burden of poverty but also with extreme physical disability. You seem to be justifying the actions of a nation's army on the grounds that extremist hostile elements in Gaza haven't been playing to the rules of sportsmanship.
This is an excerpt from Rabbi Michael Lerner's article in "The Times" of London, January 5 2009:
"It breaks my heat to see Israel's stupidity. It has a right to respond to attacks, but will not achieve its ultimate aim - peace - until it stops thinking in military terms....". This is quite a long article, the Rabbi is editor of Tikkun magazine and finishes with "I remain in mourning for the Jewish people, for Israel and for the world". I haven't the time or the energy to exchange accusations with people who clearly have an axe to grind in this conflict but the rabbi is right in his understanding that the whole world could be embroiled in what the British colonialists would have described as "a little local difficulty". Why the USA is prepared to bring such opprobrium down on its head for supporting Israeli militarism is for American citizens to decide.
Btw, it was Nicolas Sarkozy who described Israel's response to the Hamas rockets as "disproportionate". President Sarkozy is partly Jewish and there was pride in France that the son (grandson?) of a Jewish immigrant from Hungary was elected to the highest office in the land.
I never said that the Hamas Charter was irrelevant. What I did say (several times) was that neither the author of the article we are supposedly responding too nor any of the letters I've read today express any love for Hamas. Kamiya, in fact, is explicitly condemning (rightly in my opinion) of Hamas for being anti-Semitic and violent. Therefore, it is not necessary to rub it in our faces how crappy Hamas is. You can criticize Israel without automatically supporting its enemies.
From the Jewish Birtual Library:
Jewish Immigrants to Palestine
1919 1,806
1920 8,223
1921 8,294
1922 8,685
1923 8,175
1924 13,892
1925 34,386
1926 13,855
1927 3,034
1928 2,178
1929 5,249
1930 4,944
1931 4,075
1932 12,533
1933 37,337
1934 45,267
1935 66,472
1936 29,595
1937 10,629
1938 14,675
1939 31,195
1940 10,643
See the spike between 1932 and 1936?
That is more than a few.
Just let me say it one more time, Nazism is vile and evil.
Let's play a new game of who said what.
First up:
"One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe"
It is sort of like saying you have to break some eggs if you want to make an omlette.
Hint "Relief" is in the name of his organization.
Q. Do you believe the firing of missiles by Hamas at Israeli citizens is justified?
A. Yes, if Israel is making Palestinians live in refugee camps.
Q. What do you believe Israel could do legitimately to counter the attacks?
A. Treat the Palestinians like humans. I don’t think the Jews in Israel are capable of doing
anything that would bring them (the Israelis) lasting peace if history is any indication.
Q. Are you really so naive as to believe that if Hamas won't respond to force, it will respond to
negotiations with the very country it has sworn to destroy?
A. Are you really so naïve that you think the Israelis can change? It is not who they are.
Lie: If Hamas stopped firing rockets, there would have been no Israeli attack.
Truth: The rockets are a sign that something is wrong in “Israel.” Could it be all of the
Palestinians living in refugee camps while the Israelis eat bon bons?
Lie: As for the 500 or so dead Palestinians, even Hamas admits that the vast majority of
These - about 75% or so - are Hamas fighters.
Truth: When in the Course of Palestinian events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the
political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of
the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God
entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare
the causes which impel them to the separation.....
..... That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the
Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its
foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem
most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.....
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object
evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to
throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Thomas Jefferson: Israel = Tyranny
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Salon headlines in your mailbox
