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Tuesday, January 6, 2009 12:00 AM

The Israel rules

America's support of the Gaza attack proves once again that our mythical image of Israel has blinded us to its faults -- a myopia with devastating consequences for both countries.

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Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:51 AM

They're starting to torch Jewish homes and schools Belgium

2 or 3 instances today.

I know there are many pro Israel rallies planned in the US this week. But frankly, the people who need to know about them already do and putting up that information here worries me that some of you would show up with guns and fire bombs. But I suspect that putting the fear into Jews is a bit of what you had in mind.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:52 AM

Israel Exceeding Tolerance!

Israel should have acted forcefully against Hamas when the very First Rocket or Mortar was fired into Israel! Israel's efforts at peaceful negotiations with Hamas are proof positive that they only understand quick, and strong, action! Get off Israel's back, if anyone shot missiles at you what would you do?

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:53 AM

The parrots in the peanut gallery

Like I said, it's almost like it's *gasp* propaganda!

Just what is a measured response to terror? What should a country do when an adjacent territory subjects it to repeated rocket attacks which are clearly intended to terroize its citizens? What would the US or any other country do if any adjacent country repeatedly attacked it? What would the US or any other country do when all attempts at diplomacy failed...when truces and cease fires were repeatedly broken? How do you stop someone from terrorizing you?

And this:

As for civilian deaths in Gaza, they are horrible. But the real culprit is Hamas. Do you believe the firing of missiles by Hamas at Israeli citizens is justified? Are you just as outraged by those actions? Whether or not you are, what do you believe Israel could do legitimately to counter the attacks? Are you really so naive as to believe that if Hamas won't respond to force, it will respond to negotiations with the very country it has sworn to destroy?

Me, as a CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, and NOT a CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF ISRAEL, my answer to such pressing questions?

Who cares? It doesn't affect the security of the United States or its national interests AT ALL. Stop all aid to all countries, and fix out sinking economy. The US is on the verge of becoming a failed state and all the Troll Army can think about is the justifying Israeli war crimes. No thought about how it affects the security of the US and its citizens because they don't care. Such contempt for the citizens of the United States, we are merely there to go along and fund Israel's adventures, consequences be damned!

Unless of course selling weapons and handing out welfare checks are considered "The National Interests".

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:55 AM

gee look, Satanic Jews made ANOTHER account to cut and paste with

Wallaby. Nice one.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:55 AM

@Night Owl

In all likely hood

I would not kill 500 plus people....

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:56 AM

My dear McFarland,

you poor ignorant fool, it was called "The Transfer Agreement."

Following the call of an international boycott of Germany by the Zionists, and the Germans then boycotting Jewish businesses, they decided to stike a deal. So, since Palestine would allow Jews to immigrate, the Nazis decided to take advantage of that to provide the British with a little trouble - poloitics makes strange bedfellows.

They would land in Haifa and get the money that they had transfered tot eh account in Germany. The Arabs were not happy.

So, why did those German Jews who entered Palestine between 1933 and 1936 so eagerly wage a terror campaign against the British, the enemy of the Nazis?

They even declared war on Britain in 1944.

Sorry McFarland, but your history book publishers don't want you to know that.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:56 AM

@ kathleen

I think we are within our rights asking whether it is absolutely strictly necessary to kill 500 (and counting) people in response to the murder of four people. There simply comes a point where the "necessity" argument cannot be maintained.

-- Kathleen L.

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Your query is a faulty one. Israel is not acting based on the "murder of four people". If the only action had been a Hamas suicide bomber that killed 4 or even 24 Israelis, the Israelis surely would not have attacked. Instead, Israel atttacked because of the incessant fire of rockets aimed at killing its civilians. In Sderot, for example, the people must always remain within 15 seconds of a shelter, for that is all the warning they can be expected to receive. If Hamas stopped firing rockets, there would have been no Israeli attack. Israel (and even Egypt) warned Hamas of the imminent attack for days, yet Hamas - sworn to destroy Israel - kept firing at Israeli citizens. No country would put up with that.

As for the 500 or so dead Palestinians, even Hamas admits that the vast majority of these - about 75% or so - are Hamas fighters. This is an incredible result for attacks against an organization that refuses to wear uniforms, hides its personnel and weapons in residential areas, and fires rockets into Israel from residential areas. Moreover, many of the dead civilians are the result of secondary explosions of rockets that Hamas has hidden in residential complexes and mosques. Hamas is to blame for these deaths, not Israel.

The fact of the matter is that Israel is doing everything it can to try to minimize civilian casualties while attempting to relieve itself from rocket fire. Hamas, on the other hand, uses Palestinians as chattel and human shields, hoping for more civilian casualities to show that Israel is somehow to blame.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 12:01 PM

My dear McFarland

http://www.transferagreement.com/

http://www.stockmaven.com/transfer_A.htm

Go ahead, call them crazy Jew-hating anti-semites, fool.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 12:07 PM

WHAT WOULD YOU DO???????

How about all of you warmongering cheerleaders take the next flight to Israel and sign up for the IDF and stop the rockets yourselves? Go on, show all of us pussy Israel-haters how real men kill.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 12:07 PM

world as Middle East hostage

It is refreshing to see critiques of Israel and U.S. Middle East policy emerging despite the inevitable backwash of anti-Semitism accusations.

As an ethnic christian whose personal spirituality has nothing to do with monotheism, I am very tired of having the entire world's stability threatened by this poisonous familial dispute among monotheistic siblings. If the land of Israel, the city of Jerusalem, the Dome of the Rock and other sites are so sacred to Judaism, Christianity and Islam, then they should be treated as such and shared equally. If the stakeholders revered the land and applied their religious principles they would treat it with respect - not least because, inextricably intertwined with the religious dispute, is the conflict over shrinking resources, principally water.

It would behoove all interested parties to put their energy into developing sustainable living solutions for all the people of the Middle East rather than allowing the continued conflation of resource war and religious pettiness in the region.

But of course such an outcome would not please one important group Kamiya didn't mention: fundamentalist Christians, who have been an important element shaping U.S. Mideast policy since the Know-Nothings took over in 1980. This cult does not want to see peace in the Middle East; it wants to see all-out Armageddon because that means Jesus will be here soon. Fundamentalist Christians support Israel unconditionally not because they believe in its inherent value, but because it has to exist in order for the End Times to unfold as prophesied.

It would be encouraging if US foreign policy were not based on such shaky foundations, but instead on an even-handed commitment to sustainable co-existence of all Middle Eastern cultures.

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