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Tuesday, January 6, 2009 12:00 AM

The Israel rules

America's support of the Gaza attack proves once again that our mythical image of Israel has blinded us to its faults -- a myopia with devastating consequences for both countries.

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Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:33 AM

My dear luckycat,

The doctor is insane. She will either ignore your point or come up with an equally stupid argument from her crib sheet which needs to be updated.

HEY! We dropped nukes on Nagasaki and Hiroshima - so how dare we criticize anything???

HEY! Americans eat meat and meat is murder. You want them to stop killing Palestinians? Well stop eating cows and chickens you hypocrites!!!

HEY! Antibiotics kill defenseless germs! Stop killing germs and the Israelis will think about stop killing Palestinians, maybe!

Germs or Palestinians - oh to see the expression on the doctor's face while she ponders that savory morsel.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:37 AM

@jebldmm

Proportionality certainly is NOT moot under international law and the Geneva Conventions. It is a very clearly defined and understood concept endorsed by all civilized nations. I really don't know where Israeli apologists like you get off dismissing ratified legal concepts of the highest importance as if they were nothing more than a pesky fly. It's in the same league as Dick Cheney's description of torture as a no-brainer.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:39 AM

My dear Chris Sinnard,

Hermann Göring? So he is behind all this!

Call me unsurprised.

I guess you can't blame Livni because Göring's logic is hard to beat.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:40 AM

something stinks

The doctor is insane. She will either ignore your point or come up with an equally stupid argument from her crib sheet which needs to be updated.

And she wouldn't have it any other way. It should be pretty clear by now that this is how it works with Zionist Apologists. It is the same pattern every time there is an article related to Israel. The first line of action is not to discuss said article, but to get the discussion where the Zionists' want it, a debate about proper framing that can last forever as both sides go back and forth with their "which came fist, the Zionist Jew or the Palestinian". Whether they do it consciously or not, it is the most weasel worded and intellectually dishonest way to keep the discussion where the Zionist wants it, and they wouldn't have it any other way!

I mean, God forbid real issues or the points raised in the article get discussed. There is always obfuscating and distracting to be done, so lets get into a discussion about framing instead!

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:41 AM

In the last 8 years 20 (twenty) people were killed by Hamas rockets in the disputed areas of

southern Israel. Gaza is now being called the Gaza Ghetto, reminiscent of the Warsaw Ghetto which had been walled by the Germans in 1940 and held about half a million Jews, many of whom lived a dozen or more to a room. No contact was permitted with the outside, and little food was allowed in. The similarities are striking. The Jewish insurrectionists held out between October 1942 and May 1943 until the Germans had bombed, shelled and burned the ghetto to rubble. Just about 70 Jewish fighters escaped through the sewers to join the Polish partisans but over 50,000 went to Treblinka or to labour camps.

Germany hasn't even yet got over the shame of the atrocities committed in its name. However, if any of the Nazi proponents of racial purity is still living and can see, from television screens, what's happening in the Gaza Ghetto he must be filled with admiration for the Zionists who've learned the Nazi lesson not wisely but certainly well.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:44 AM

something stinks

Hermann Göring? So he is behind all this!

No no no, you misunderstand, like most of the prominent Nazi propagandists, Göring is merely a Zionist role model.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:45 AM

-- The Satanic Jews of Hollywood

Your cut and paste shtick is so fresh.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:46 AM

@maureenodonnell

That comparison is obscene. Israel is not targeting civilians, there is not mass starvation in Gaza, and it can hardly be suggested that no communication is being allowed from Gaza. The only parallels lie in the minds of people who hate Israel as much as the Germans hated Jews.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:46 AM

Israel spent about a billion dollars building bomb shelters in the south

With a 15-30 second warning system. Maureen feels that's a moral shame that they've taken steps to defend theirselves. To her, Jews should stand out in the open and welcome the rain of rockets. Maybe she can send little cyanide pills to them to save them the trouble of being bombed at all. It's kind what Saddam felt in the Desert Storm war when he lobbed 60 Scud-B missiles into Israel with the threat of chemical weapons. According to Maureen they should have gassed themselves to save us all the trouble.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:47 AM

The irony of "Fucking Pussy Jews" Something Stinks

The doctor is insane. She will either ignore your point or come up with an equally stupid argument from her crib sheet which needs to be updated.-- something stinks

You've already personally resorted to vile stereotypes of Jews, including "Fucking Pussies"

The only reason you have the gall to post what you did, is because you feel safely surrounded by fellow Jew Haters.

You've never made a point, much less one warranting a response.

Jews still controlling banking and censoring all the media in your closed little Der Stürmer World? Keep polishing that Stürmerkasten and keep chanting Die Juden sind unser Unglück.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:51 AM

The Nazi Analogy

Too bad that posters such as Chris Sinnard and Maureen O'Donnell don't seem to realize that using Nazi analogies to try to score points simply undermines any legitimate arguments they might have.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:52 AM

Maureen -- Please remind me...

... in reviewing German and Austrian history from the 1930's; how many rocket attacks did "the Jews" launch against the German citizenry?

I'm thinking that there might just be a small distinction that you are overlooking...

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:53 AM

jebldmm, Xanthro. FOUL!

-10 points for using the intellectually dishonest slur of "Jew hating" (i.e. antisemitism).

. The only parallels lie in the minds of people who hate Israel as much as the Germans hated Jews.

-- jebldmm

The only reason you have the gall to post what you did, is because you feel safely surrounded by fellow Jew Haters.

-- Xanthro

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:56 AM

Please Tell Us More Maureen

Please list all the times the Nazis sent telegrams to Jews to remove themselves from areas before invading.

Just curious Maureen, what would you have your country do if your people were the constant target of rocket fire? Nothing until the number of dead is sufficent for a so-called "proportionate" response?

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:57 AM

I consider the concept of "collateral damage" to

be one of the most morally reprehensibe I've ever encountered. So I am supposed to be more repulsed by an Arab extremist saying that he has a moral right to kill Jewish children than by the demonstrated willingness of Israel to kill Palestinian children while claiming that it was morally right to do so since they were just "collateral damage" and not the main targets? I am sorry but there is little to choose between two such ugly stances.

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