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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Native Americans in this country get reperations for the land that was stolen from them. I know this because my best friends growing up were members of a tribe, and they got their "Indian money" when they reached their majority. I don't know if this still goes on, but they both received a nice chunk of change. Enough to make a down payment on a home or buy a car outright.
Granted, its not the same as receiving the land back that was stolen from their ancestors, however, their tribe does have reservation land. Luckily, their tribe still exists. And they don't call themselves Native Americans, by the way, but whatever.
Will the Israeli's do the same for the Palestinians once they follow the list of imaginings you listed in your first post?
What I dislike the most about your argument (the Native American analogy) is this; don't you think American's know first hand what can happen in Israel because it already happend here? Sure, we won, but at what cost? I personally don't want Israel to win by committing genocide on the Palestinians like "we" basically did to a fair number of the tribes that used to roam this country. Tribes that spoke different languages, looked different, and had different cultures, though you seem to be fond of putting those differing peoples under the blanket term, Native American.
I could give back the land I live on to my friends, but they weren't from this part of the country. But all Native Americans are the same I suppose. Right? Just like all Palestinians.
Well, I thought about it. Most people in the country really don't own the majority of the land and in fact the land they own is actually owned by the bank, or, uh, ahem, bankers, and they pay a mortgage on it.
So most of the real land is owned by the federal government and the major corporations and now banks have a lot that they need to unload. Sure give it back the the Native Americans - Cargill and ADM should give back the great plains and the forestry industry should give their vast tracts to the native americans too. Then let the same companies run it for them, no problem, right?
How about all those forclosures the banks own? Wy not give ikt to the Native Americans and poor people?
Most Americans get along with Native Americans. It seems like only the rich and powerful would object to your plan.
Oil and gas fields? It isn't as if the publicn is amking any money off of those except in Alaska, so give them that too. No problem for the majority of Americans for any of this.
Well, maybe ONE group would have a problem with it - the rich and powerful.
I guess you would sympathize with them, right?
Kamiya has it 100% backwards. The real indigenous people in the land of Israel are the Jews not the Muslims. The Muslim crusades took over the middle east centuries ago, the Jews were just returning to what was taken from them. Anywhere you dig in Israel, you will find ruins of Jewish Temples. Jerusalem is mentioned over 600 times in the old Testament, and never in the Koran.
The Arabs know this, though the willfully ignorant Kamiya does not, this is why the Arabs systematically destroyed centuries old synagogues in Jerusalem when Jordan ruled the city from 1948-67.
Doesn't Kamiya get tired of writing this same article? Like most of his twisted analogies, this one comes up lame. It isn't the Israelis who have forced the Palestinians to live in camps for 60 years, it is the Arabs. In 1948 there were over 40 million refugees from world wide conflicts including China, Pakistan/India, WWII and the Arab's failed attempt to destroy Israel at its UN sponsored birth (including 1 million Jews evicted from Arab lands). Only the 700,000 Palestinian war refugees and their many decendents have never been resettled in any of the 22 Arab dictatorships comprising 99+% of the land in the middle east.
A real journalist, instead of a flak for Arab dictators would ask the Arab world 'what kind of people are you to keep people locked in refugee camps for 60 years'. Alas Kamiya isn't a real journalist. Just an apologist for the people who launch rockets at civilians while hiding behind women and children.
The rise of Hamas is a result of Israels behavior. Even if Israel was to kill every Hamas man, unless Israels behavior is changed, Hamas will rise again. This is a part of the price that Israel must pay for avoiding peace all these years and decades. Instead, Israel has chosen to expand west bank settlements. Israel has made a conscious and deliberate decision to take this path and it has led to the present hostilities, which have long been predicted. Israel is not deserving of any sympathy in these circumstances. Quite the opposite.
Georgia with peaches and Carter or Georgia the second homeland of the Jews that BZ and Israle used to poke Russia in the eye with?
In his article titled The Israel rules, Gary Kamiya not only distorts history, he completely misstates basic facts about the creation of the State of Israel, her statehood, previous wars fought to ensure her existence, and the fate of the Palestinians (including the reason they were “refugees” to begin with). Under the guise of attempting to sound pragmatic, democratic, and egalitarian, Kamiya is frighteningly condescending of the Jewish people and of Israel’s right to exist. His rhetoric barely conceals his anti-Semitism. If his advice were heeded in its entirety, Israel would basically fend for itself in the Middle East and a democratic country smaller than NJ, surrounded virtually on all sides by militant, well fortified terrorists and sympathizing Arab nations, would cease to exist in a matter of hours.
One of the best I've seen by an American. As someone who has lost several friendships with Jews over the mildest of criticism of the state of Israel, I especially appreciate his analysis of how difficult it is to speak out on this issue. One is immediately branded an anti-Semite or more broadly someone whose moral outlook is deeply in question.
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