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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Or just screechy vague op-ed? Well to his credit at least it IS an opinion as opposed to Greenwald, who's columns are complaints about other people's opinions.
Again though how does Gary explain, generally speaking the support for attacks against Hamas in the Arab world and in the Arab press?
from: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1052866.html
Analogy One: A fanatical religious party wins a string of elections in Mexico's northern states, then stages a civil war to drive out the federal government and take full control.
The party's charter demands the return to Mexico of the occupied territories of California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Texas.
Firing homemade rockets and more advanced projectiles smuggled in from Iran and China, the party's gunners can hit a total of one of every seven Americans, or 43,598,000 people, in a broad swath which includes Los Angeles, San Diego, Phoenix, Albuquerque, Austin, San Antonio and Houston, and Las Vegas.
In all of these areas, pre-schools, grade schools, and universities are all forced to shut down. Families sleep in bomb shelters, and return to them several times a day during air raids. Businesses are shuttered, and the economy shuts down.
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Analogy Two: A man comes into your home. He has a gun he made himself. He points it at your family. He fires, but misses. The gun has little accuracy. He fires repeatedly, missing again and again.
You have a much better gun, made in a real factory. It is in the drawer in the bedroom.
Demonstrators in London and San Francisco - who are distant relatives of the gunman - stage a protest, calling you a murderer and demanding that you keep the well-made gun in the drawer because it would be a disproportionate response.
The man with the homemade gun, it turns out, is a religious fanatic who lives across the street. You were once his landlord. There is much bad blood between you.
He races back across the street. He has a larger weapon that he smuggled in through his basement. He shoots from behind his younger son. He wounds your daughter. You take out a rifle. You aim for him and hit the son, killing the boy.
The demonstrators are now calling you a Nazi and chant "Slaughter the Landlord!"
[In his defense, the neighbor explains that you have kept him and his family locked in the house, and have at times, failed to pay his water, gas and electric bills, causing them to be turned off.
This is some years after the neighbor send out his older son, nicely dressed, to knock on your door. Your older daughter opens the door. He greet her politely, and presses the detonator on a homemade bomb.]
called to murder Israelis and Jews worldwide, including children. “The Israelis have sentenced their children to death... They have legitimized the killing of their people all over the world,” he said. Hamas' platform calls for all Jews to convert to Islam or be killed, based on an Islamic saying (Hadith), and the group has not refrained from targeting children in the past.
Can we just change the name of Salon to DavidDuke dotcom? Please?
Gary, you lost all credibility when you linked to Pappé on p. 1 as a source for "the fact of Palestinian dispossesion." There is no such "fact" and Pappé is a dishonest ideologue.
Maybe right after the Kurds get their homeland....
nyuk nyuk.
But the situation in Palestine is different! After all, the Arabs need a country of their own
(besides: Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Syria, Tunisia, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Qatar, and Sudan)
and anyway, the Jews have a homeland...its called Brooklyn, right?
Hummmm.....this is silly, aint it?
"Not everyone believes the myth. In fact, only a minority of Americans do. But the Israel rules must be obeyed nonetheless, lest one be accused of anti-Semitism, radicalism, sympathy for terrorists, or, more subtly, lest one anger or offend one's friends and acquaintances."
Like no other issue that I can think of, except abortion, this one brings out the extremist thinking and positions, with most people's attitudes hardened for or against Israel. That's why I like Kamiya's article, in addition to his command of facts: his understanding of the various mythical, psychological, and cultural bases for the American support of Israel--to our detriment, and ultimately theirs.
In my community, there has been a longstanding "war" in the letters column of our newspaper between local Zionists and those few (foolhardy) folks who attempt to present the Palestinians' side of things. The latter are viciously savaged after every letter they write, often by faraway rabbis, with rhetoric that usually includes some charges of anti-semitism, as well as the usual folk tales about Israelis and Palestinians (Israel the Noble Victim; Palestine the Backwards Fanatical Terrorist). I know for a fact that some of them are treated as personas non grata in some circles--if they could be cast out of the community, some people here would love to do that. Needless to say, people who agree with them and are critical of Israel look at what abuse they suffer and think "not for me." You could lose important business, professional, and social contacts in a relatively small city in the Midwest just by virtue of proclaiming sympathy for the Palestinians. This obviously is not good for the Jews, which the most progressive of them see only too clearly.
It is always disturbing to see otherwise intelligent, caring people harden their hearts against the obvious carnage going on in Gaza right now. Over time, you grow weary of trying to understand the historical basis for their hatred. You just want them to wake up and realize that hatred gets them nowhere--they have to try to help Israel grow up.
First of all, I call everyone my dear here unless they are not human.
Nineteenth century behavior and policy is not acceptable but then again, the indians had bows and arrows and spears against firearms and then they got some firearms but Europeans are just so much more efficient at killing people than they were, but still, firearms vs. firearms is certainly more fair than rocks and molotov coktails vs. fighter bombers, missiles, tanks and a modern army. Then again, fairness is notosomething you can grasp.
"The fact is that the Zionist Israelis is smugly urging the Palestinians to do something that they, would not contemplate for an instant. We call that hypocrisy."
FTFY.
-- Amy Tuteur, MD
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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