The Bush admonistration could trot out Osama Bin Laden from whatever underground prison they've got him squirreled away in...

some people are cautioning against declaring victory too soon.

ok... let's say that by some miracle mccain WINS...then what?

the hard core base is gonna fight for the party leadership

[http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-gop28-2008oct28,0,3963149.story] and hold their congressional minority to various purity tests and nothing will actually get done....

and the moderates and the extremists will form a circular firing squad...

good times....

A very fine article, Mr. Kamiya. I predict the same. The Republicans are too stubborn to admit any culpability. They behave like spoiled children who feel wronged if they can't have their way, even if it's for their own good. I say let them RIP. Their ideology is dead.

A very fine article, Mr. Kamiya. I predict the same. The Republicans are too stubborn to admit any culpability. They behave like spoiled children who feel wronged if they can't have their way, even if it's for their own good. I say let them RIP. Their ideology is dead.

Gary Kamiya,

Well said, and all so true.

My guess is the Repubs will be back in 2012, much as they are today. With their hate fully intact and fully functional, blaring loudly. We can expect to see the likes of Sarah Palin and Jeb Bush and their religious right leaders and 'values voters' screaming and hating everyone who is not them. The likes of O'Reilly, Hannity, Noonan and Limbaugh will be leading them onward.

Little or nothing will have changed. They are hell bent on money, mammon, and worship only that. If there is not a war going they will start another one, it's profitable, and they worship profits.

They are not done trashing America. Their religious right leaders will still be exhorting them onward. And that includes my own religion which has been generating hate against many groups for some 2000 years. I do not foresee the right wing hate machine ever stopping. Anyone who is in the way of their theology or their access to money is dead meat. Theo-Fascism seems inevitable. I see nothing on the horizon to stop it.

These are vicious christians that inhabit America. Unless we become like them, we are helpless to stop them. And I refuse to become like them.

Europe and the rest of the western world has nothing like them. Europe saw Theo-Fascism up close and very personal during WWII and sixty million died. Europe learned a lesson that America has yet to learn.

If we learn that same lesson, the one which Jesus admonished when He said: 'Render unto Caesar... then and only then will America and the world will be safe. Should that occur then religion will be what religion is supposed to be, a positive force for good rather than a force for evil and hate.

A perfect example of what religion in America should be, can be seen at the website for the church known as St. Martin-in-the-Fields. Read what they do and are all about. It gives me a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye. Instead, religion in America serves the Republican party. Theo-Fascism seems quite satanic.

The church of St. Martin-in-the-Fields in London is Anglican. Cueen Elizabeth 11 is the titular head but she governs her Church with the Lords Spiritual, who are the Archbishop of Canterbury, Archbishop of York, and 24 diocesan bishops. The fact that these Lords Spiritual are allowed to sit in the House of Lords and examine bills passed by the House of Commons (the elected representarives of the people) seems profoundly undemocratic to me, particularly as England is very secular and all the pomp and pageantry is just for show, especially for Americans. There are other dynasties in Europe but Americans ignore them although you put the run on George 111. Inexplicable!

Please complete your quotation; in its truncated form it makes no sense. "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render to God the things that are God's".

And let us also lay to rest any notion of this country being "center right". My God, if center right is what we've had all these years then I dread to imagine what "radical" looks like. The creepy truth (just in time for Halloween) is more like this: we have had the very radicalism that you only used to hear about but never thought would end up running things. We have tilted towards theocracy at a more frightening pace than ever previously conceived in modern times, rushed toward and advocated for the Corporate State at a speed the Flash would envy, actually moved to have the state support the wealthy (witness the now all-pupose federal bailout of Wall Street), and effectively given the finger to the rest of the world as we dove heedlessly into Armageddon. And the really terrifying thing is: the neoconservatives think we haven't gone FAR ENOUGH. The preceding is their version of "center right" policy. This is like those old revival meetings you hear about where the believers are exhorted to be "radical for Jesus", not even recognizing that they're already so far out in right field they've left the stadium! I couldn't agree with Gary more. Let this Titanic sink. Let these baying fools drown. Good riddance. Don't even bother looking for the wreckage.

Oh and by the way, R.I.P. means Rest In Pieces, not...the other thing.

Terkoy, your posts are pretty incoherent. Let me ask you a few direct questions:

1) Do you think Obama is a Muslim? Yes/No/Don't Know

2) If Obama's background has been hidden under a "shroud of secrecy," then please explain how we all know about Wright, Ayers, Rezko and Obama's Indonesian schooling.

3) Given that the Bradley Effect describes a situation where polls say everyone is voting for the black guy but once they're in the voting booth they vote for someone else so the black guy loses, please explain how this applies to Iowa where Obama won.

4) You seem to believe that the hand-on-heart issue, the flag pin issue, and the 57 state issue all point to the notion that Obama is anti-American. Can you point to any substantial things to suggest this?

5) When you suggested that Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams, and Clarence Thomas would be preferable to Obama, hilarity aside, why did you suggest all black people? Again, were you suggesting that one black person is interchangable with another? And if so, please explain why we can't swap out McCain for Jon Stewart.

I thank you in advance for your clear, non-evasive answers.