Letters to the Editor
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If you don't think Obama needs to "out he-man" McCain
you're deluding yourself. A national security dove will never win a general election.
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right
"If the Democrats can find the courage to say that the GOP's tough-guy emperor has no clothes, they'll wake up the American people, and make the war public issue No. 1 again. And if they can do that, they'll walk into the White House."
And angels and fairies will come and give us all cupcakes.
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You have to remember that not everyone is that familiar with McCain either
He did not win the 2000 nomination so was not on the radar of the non-political junky voters for very long if at all. The smart Democratic nominee will tie the war to the economy. Smart surrogates will play video of McCain himself saying Americans don't care if we stay in Iraq for 10,000 years.
McCain will have his troubles, which means probably only 50% of Americans will vote for endless war, ruined economy, gay persecution, and disappearing civil liberties. I have to agree that only about 30% will be aware of what they are voting for.
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when i was a young lad..
the news reports explained about 'body-count' and 'free-fire zones', 'phoenix programs' and 'agent orange'. then calley got a couple of years confinement to barracks for mylai,and vietnam became a 'mistake'.
i formed the opinion then that the american electorate were not concerned about moral questions, as long as genocide didn't inconvenience them personally. things haven't changed.
the democrat leadership knows the caliber of the people who voted twice for george w bush. if they are told that they supported war crimes they will not fall to their knees and ask "where is salvation". if told they supported an incompetent who has gutted the nation's economy while soiling the nation's reputation, will they say: "my god! i was a fool!" nope. they'll cover their mistake with another.
pathetic as the dem congress may be, they could be right not to remark on the suppurating corpse of the bush administration. there's just too many americans who pulled the trigger, not least among the dem politicians..
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We owe the Iraqi people a debt
This may be true, but unfortunately there is no "Iraqi people" to pay it to. Iraq is in the middle of civil wars: a fifth of the population are Kurds, who want to have their own country. The rest are almost all Arabs, two-thirds Shia and the other third Sunni, who are fighting a war to see who will run the country and how it will be run.
Any attempt by the U.S. to help the Iraqis must involve intervening in these civil wars, which is exactly what Mr. Kamiya wants to avoid.
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Don't sweat it, Gary
Obama questions the very premise that strength means willingness to bomb people. Hillary? Well, such a thing would show 'weakness.' Once Obama presses that point and links the $500 million per week we waste over there with the crap econony, there's not much McCain can do.
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Amazing, Cythera!
I was gonna pre-empt you by by name in my post and say I'm sure you'll disagree by posting some version of "Hillary will hit the terrorists with her rolling pin!" (I said it that way so you can call me sexist.) But I thought it would be rude to put words in your mouth ... and you beat me to it anyway!
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Mr. Kamiya hit it right on the head
I think this is the correct analysis of the political situation. Obama opting out of drawing the very real distinctions between him and McCain would be ridiculous. It seems to me that the posters who think he should minimize those differences are just republicans or self deluded individuals. I am so tired of politicians like Pelosi, Reid, and their kind constantly putting their finger to the wind to decide essentially moral decisions. It's already apparent that Hillary would be just another in a long line of them.
Al Gore, in his 2000 presidental bid, barely mentioned environmental issues. His corporate advisors told him that even though it mattered to him that it didn't matter to the American people. That was a great idea wasn't it? When will people ever realize that campaigns catch fire when the candidate communicates his or her real passions.
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@tangerine
You should try concentrating on your own posts rather than composing them for others. You can use all the focus you can muster. By the way, I do have a rolling pin here--why don't you bend over...?
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I beg to differ...
"In any case, it's long past time for Democrats to take on this supposedly sacrosanct Republican talking point. There will never be a better moment to do it..."
If HRC is the Democratic nominee then there will be a better time to do it: four years from now when President McCain has made an even bigger mess of the region. Hillary Clinton is getting ready to lose this election From Day One through standard issue DLC triangulation on the Iraq War issue. Our window to stop this war is closing fast and I can tell from the sweatstains on the glass that it's Mark Penn's sausagey fingers that are to blame.
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@cythera Carter did
@cythera Carter did win a general election.
People were just sick of a decade of perpetual war. It took the country 30 years to recover and muster enough foolishness to get into perpetual war again.
Problem with Carter was he lacked political fortune. Which gave doves a bad name.
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@Chris W
Carter is the best you got? Carter won in '76 because Watergate and the Nixon pardon stained Ford, who was never even elected. And then the Iran hostage crisis fried him because he was seen as WEAK. Try again....
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Chill, Gary. It's coming.
If and when Barack Obama clinches the Dem's nomination, he will have free reign to go after John "100 years war" McCain, and he will. Obama is smart, and the Dems are smart. We will beat McCain senseless with his idiotic warmongering.
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Iraq: A War Based On Lies
One must never forget that Bush and Cheney purposely lied about the reasons to invade Iraq.
Iraq had no WMD
Iraq had no ties to al-Quaeda
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11
And to think that Iraq's military was a direct threat to the US is not only laughable, but a gross insult to the mightiest military the world has ever know.
The facts are all here:
Study: Bush led U.S. to war on 'false pretenses'
Hundreds of false statements on WMDs, al-Qaida used to justify Iraq war
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22794451/
The crimes are documented. All that it will take to bring these criminals Bush and Cheney to trial is a few good people.
