Letters to the Editor
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As if gender is the reason people have issues with Hillary
There are a lot of reasons to have serious issues with Hillary that have nothing to do with gender.
1) Her Iraq war vote
2) This divisive 51% polarizing approach
3) Hillary represents the last 20 years of the presidency that include the names Bush and Clinton
4) Hillary represents the old DLC guard in the democratic party and folks want a change
5) She's just not an inspirational campaigner. At the end of the day, how a candidate makes you feel can be pretty influential in regards to how you feel about a candidate. I personally find her approach to be as likable as Gore's in 2000
The list can go on. Let's be real and realize that a lot of the issues folks have with Hillary are based on more than her gender
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Hillary Minus Sexism
The author puts his finger on some key points about Clinton. She lost me on votes that she has made as a senator -- votes that summoned my uneasiness with the Clintons back in the '90s. Where is their core? It seems that electability trims their values, rather than having their values steer their policies.
As a feminist, I am dismayed when the Clinton camp seems not to understand that some of us won't vote for Hillary because of things that she, as an individual, has done over the years -- and that our dismay at some of her actions might actually be reasonable. And this inability to perceive the reasonable grounds for favoring another candidate only raises further questions about the quality of Hillary's thought.
I do have one quibble with the author. If I follow the proposed thought experiment, I agree that there's an increase in electability and a decrease in the irrational Hillary hatred. However, I am still wondering about a very large, decades-old pattern of not having a core sense of values. The Iraq vote exemplified a pattern, in addition to being calculating in itself. I know where McCain really stands on Iraq; I know where Obama stands; I still don't know what Hillary really thinks. And I don't want a president who either refuses to come to clear positions and then stand up for them, or comes to positions and doesn't tell us.
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spoon daddy, you forgot a few
-In 2005 she co-sponsored an obviously unconstitutional flag-burning amendment.
-Since she seems to want to run on the successes of her husband's administration, I suppose it's fair that she should be taken to task for its failures as well, right? For instance, as she given us any indication that she will reverse her husband's escalation of the War on Drugs?
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I am surprised that the Salon readership is so excited about this apparent dispute...
... since Clinton and Obama will become running mates in about 175 days from now. And then, they will be speaking of each other in glowing terms like "history-making... visionary... leadership America needs... blah blah blah blah blah."
Then, the Democrats will have what they have always had: a losing Presidential ticket (Clinton-Obama '08) and a jilted candidate (Edwards) who will become a world-class complainer about how he got jobbed and what his party needs to do to win the next big one.
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Identifying shrill
"It is undeniable ... that, if she exhibits ambition, aggression, and strength (that would be approved in a male candidate) she runs the risk of being labeled shrill, strident, or bitchy -- all labels which are applied less frequently to men."
For the record, shrill and strident is Edwards. Hillary has her shrill moments, of course, but John gets the prize.
Go Obama. Go McCain. Go civil discourse.
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Hillary will win because of her gender, last name, and the negative campaign she is running
Americans have already demostrated in 2004 that they are generally too stupid to think for themselves or actually look anything up.
Women will vote for Hillary because she is a woman. That's it. It's really that simple. Democrats will vote for her for the same reason Republicans voted for W, her last name. Everybody else will vote for her because they will remember the distortions about the other candidates she broadcasts without bothering to learn that they are bullshit.
It has already been written. Resistence is futile. All hail President Clinton.
Hey maybe Chelsea will run next. I mean, after Jeb Bush's kid gets his chance in the White House.
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Race & Gender Discourse should occur in DEMS Party NOW!!! Not LATER!!!!
The Dems claim to be the home of Black folks, we have been thier loyal slugs for decades...I have no intentions of surrendering, retreating, or handcuffing myself with regard to such an important daily issue.
Hillary & Obama's agenda's do not define the nature of race in this country. Kamiya simply does not understand the depth of contempt for people who look like me in this country. From my vantage point a white liberal woman or any gender woman regardless of race or ethnicity with regard to Black males our paths have no parity never did and never will.
I can argue that black females can appreciate this reality about racism on this soil but privledged white woman like Hillary obviously cannot given her discounting of MLK. Being on the end of shared grievances does not mean shared results.
The notion that gender is congruent with race is a fiction marketed by white feminists to non-white woman and it has never been a best seller..
I found the banter quite revealing and educational especially when it got nasty and gritty. I am so tired of shallow commentaries like Kamiya's they only prolonged the wedge and smother the truth..
I also find it amazing how so many people have the "good soilder mentality" they take marching orders from some so-called higher authority.
I will continue to reject the backward notion of let's move on and pretend like nothing happened. That has been the landscape of our country for decades, let's pretend after 1964 civil rights acts negroes and coloreds have been paid in full..
The whispher in white conservative circles now is very prevelant in white liberal circles " enough already" is the silent mantra of white liberals...
The prevailing governing paradigms have accepted white woman as part of it's ruling class, the best we can offer blacks folks now is a bi-racial impotent Obama who has handcuffed himself to his own political castration because he does not want to campaign as a one drop Black man.
Obama's passive and weak demeanor has created this nasty backlash from white liberals and frsutrated white feminists.Obama leaves so much capital on the table when he refuses to allow one drop nature run its course..
"Moving on" is the mantra of liberals who have failed so many for so long..