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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:00 AM

The race vs. gender war

The Democratic race is starting to resemble a compulsory oppressed minorities course taught by political consultants. Let's stop squabbling and elect the best nominee.

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Thursday, January 17, 2008 04:40 PM

kaluem: From my vantage point "macho" is a female sexist term..

there is no such animal called "african-seminole.. I am not a slippery eel,I do know the difference in fine whiskeys, yada,yada, yada..

This is a chat forum , where macro ideas are floated, attacked, rejected, defended, ignored etc..

I am not responsible for folks getting upset with my posts, Yes I am a skilled agitator with superb logical skills and wit that stings..

I am a activist not a baker..I do not bake cookies.. I do what I do..

Thursday, January 17, 2008 04:06 PM

kaluem: I could go on and on, but wait you do the mining..

my posts speak to my premise, I am not going to retreat or offer up any apologies at the end of the day she was an angry white privledged woman who resented my telling her that without winking...

I will continue to define my reactions to her posts as not sexist nor racist..

You by all means have the prerogative to do as you wish it really will not impact me one at the end of day to candid with you..

Thursday, January 17, 2008 03:55 PM

kaluem: My pleasure open up wide..

1. "macho" African-Seminole-Americans...

Thursday, January 17, 2008 03:22 PM

You've got to be kidding me

"MLK was just a rabble rouser who did more harm than good"

That's bullsh*t. Without Martin Luther King Jr, LBJ never would have passed that law. Only the popular support and movement for de-segregation put pressure on Washington.

Thursday, January 17, 2008 02:58 PM

Gulp! The Clintons are correct.

I never thought I would ever side

with the Clintons but they have their

LBJ facts correct. President Johnson

purchased his legacy - civil rights

and Great Society - in exchange for

the Vietnam War. It was a straight

Congressional quid pro quo.

MLK was just a rabble

rouser who did more harm than good

with his wild life style. I have

more and more respect for both of

the Clintons watching them dig deep

to win another presidency.

Thursday, January 17, 2008 02:48 PM

give me a break

Kamiya spends the first chunk of this article complaining about columns like Gloria Steinem's that kicked off this whole race vs. gender distraction... then he turns around and does the exact same thing as Steinem, in reverse -- but at greater length. Steinem complains about sexism and dismisses race as if it's not that bad. Kamiya is just doing the opposite, asking over and over "well, is sexism REALLY that bad, c'mon?" Which is just as stupid and plays into the whole ridiculous "race vs. gender" argument just as much!

Steinem is a white woman. It makes sense for her to talk about sexism, she's been thinking and writing about it for decades. But she's obviously no expert on racism. She has no experience being a target of white-majority racist institutions, stereotypes, and cultural legacies like Obama does, even if she can watch it happen.

Gary Kamiya is a half-Japanese guy. I'd happily read his thoughts on racism in the US, what it's like to be multiracial, etc. But come on, it's patronizing to have a guy go on and on about how sexism isn't really that bad, women aren't really affected by narrow stereotypes, etc. What the hell do you know? Certainly nothing from personal experience.

Me? I'm a half-Japanese woman. I think they're both acting like idiots with tunnel vision, even if they know better.

Thursday, January 17, 2008 01:56 PM

No, by all means, spoonfeed me

since I can find neither insult to Rosa Parks nor anti-Americansism. Maybe it's because of my bad eyes. So all you need to do is quote her, and you will have made your point. Right now you are only telling me to find something and if I don't find it that is my fault. But that's not how it works. I'll give you an example.

I'm going to say you are being sexist. Not "You are a sexist" just "you are being sexist" since it might not be how you normally act. Now why do I think so? Look it up in your posts! ...

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See, that ain't exactly fair, right? So how about I quote you:

"would be more than happy to correspond with the old chap and give him a short report on how unimpressed I was with you despite your spunk and spirited efforts ( was it the cheap irish whiskey or the knock-off germany brew)to impress me.."

To me, it just seems sexist, when you are talking to a woman who is disagreeing with you, to say that you want to tell her husband how badly you think she's being. That's like if she said she wanted to tell your white friends how disagreeable you are being.

See my point? So, by all means spoonfeed. Be precise, it can't hurt.

Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:12 AM

maureen: just remember to tell your hubby how you were unable to match wits with an american one that was Black

I am sure he does not approve of you taking up his evening drinking cheap whiskey and ruiminating about me all nite long.

I would be more than happy to correspond with the old chap and give him a short report on how unimpressed I was with you despite your spunk and spirited efforts ( was it the cheap irish whiskey or the knock-off germany brew)to impress me..

Sweet dreams love of course hoping when you toss and turn tonite those moves will have been inspired by me your favorite american colored guy...lol,lol,lol

Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:05 AM

kaleun: I am sure even europeans do not need to be spoon served about obvious facts..I am right..Yes?/

please take the time to read the banter she was engaged with me including the insulting passages about Rosa Parks and her mind numbing posts about privledged white woman and tired anti-americanthemes woven inthe bulk of her posts..

More importantly if you do not want to read all of those passges just stick around I have no doubt her addiction to habit will surface again and of course when it does I will make sure I educate her in a gentile manner with you observing from the sidelines auditing the entire ordeal and my posts of course...

Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:41 AM

Thrasher, You're as slippery as an eel

Although you have not upset my equilibrium, because I've thoroughly trounced your specious points, you are upsetting my circadian rhythm. It is evening here now and I'm thinking of having a "hot toddy", which is made with whiskey. You seem to have a problem with tea-drinking. I criticised America's FOREIGN POLICY, as you very well know, while you were spouting about how rotten and racist the U.S. is. I'm delighted that you've now changed your mind about your own country and that you are thanking your lucky stars that you live in such a great place. Thrasher, you are the living proof that "Wonders will never cease" and that people who have a permanent grievance are very boring. You've also proved to me that Americans have a very undeveloped sense of humour. Now I'm going to wish you good-night from my little corner of the planet, while I wonder whether my "night-cap" should be made from Powers "Pure Gold" whiskey or from some other brand. I hope you won't get into a terrible tizzy that the Americans can't make good whiskey and that the French make the best brandy, while German and Czech beers are highly regarded.

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