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Monday, September 29, 2008 12:00 AM

Salon Radio: ACLU's Mike German on new FBI spying powers

With three months left in the Bush administration, Attorney General Michael Mukasey is about to vest broad new FBI investigative powers aimed at U.S. citizens.

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Monday, September 29, 2008 03:02 PM

Dogs, big dogs!

Thanks, Glenn, another "learn something new every day" moment courtesy of GG.

The FBI both devises and interprets it's OWN "guidelines" controlling the extent of spying they can perform on the taxpayers. Who knew?

Monday, September 29, 2008 03:36 PM

doubly depressing

The only thing that makes me angrier and more nauseous about all of this, is that I cannot seem to find ANYONE who cares about this issue enough to actually DO anything about it. At least people I actually know IRL.

These are informed, well-educated people who have given up on change. They are resigned into meekly accepting this kind of atrocity, and as bamage aptly points out, they are paying for it. We all are. We will continue to do so.

What can I do? I cannot sit idly by while my rights are shredded.

The ones who control the information, control the money, and thus, the power.

I have limited abilities to donate money or time (two jobs), but I cannot simply pound away in anger at my keyboard while they record every motherf*cking keystroke.

//sorry, I tried to maintain impulseControl...

Monday, September 29, 2008 04:07 PM

Riveting

Best interview yet. The only question I wish you'd asked (and I know you are annoyed by such observations) is this: "Do the new guidelines permit the FBI to surveille and otherwise use their new powers on American citizens who merely are critical of the Administration/war/president?"

Monday, September 29, 2008 04:20 PM

Egad!!!

In 2002, John Ashcroft, then the attorney general, allowed F.B.I. agents to visit public sites like mosques or monitor Web sites in the course of national security investigations.

OMFG, The FBI can go to public places. The world is now near the end, the apocalypse is upon us.

Michael German, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union and a former F.B.I. agent, said the plan appeared to open the door still further to the use of data-mining profiles in tracking terrorism.

OMFG! The Safeway, IRS, Health Insurance, credit agencies, et.al. can datamine me till the cows home. But not the FBI by Jeebus.

The Justice Department said Wednesday that in light of requests from members of Congress for more information, Mr. Mukasey would agree not to sign the new guidelines before a Sept. 17 Congressional hearing.

OMFG! Those RWA bastards are going to consult with Congress! It's a trick of some sort! It's just a scheme to take over the country and take away your rights! Gad!

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I'm listening to Matthews talking to some idiot Congress person who maintains it would be better to lie to everyone about what said toxic securities are worth. Had to be a Democrat.

This would be the attempted repeal of the "mark to market" (List toxic securities on the books at real value) -- in favor of the "Mark to Model" (list toxic securities at FULL value on books) rule.

This gentle friends is just politicians trying to lie their way out of a jam, yet again. Tsk. Tsk.

Monday, September 29, 2008 06:11 PM

This country's HAD IT

I hope to escape this mess soon, since I am (technically) a dual citizen.

All I know is that my VOCAL Anti-Bush rhetoric online these past SEVEN YEARS has COINCIDENTALLY been met with my having "former" CIA handlers hanging out around me, telling me they know the elder Bush personally and that he is a 'snake' (in their words, but it makes PERFECT SENSE), me being arrested on the misdemeanor of having my driver's license fee being sent to a SEVEN YEAR OLD FORMER ADDRESS, and the IRS maintaining that I owe them $11,000 for money they IMAGINE I must have made to support the mortgage I now have (which I am about to hand over the keys BACK to the bank on, PRECISELY because I CANNOT afford the mortgage.

This country is fucked. I am beginning to imagine I must be lucky to REMAIN ALIVE.

How pathetic can a nation get? Particularly one that professes to be a nation of FREEDOM?!?

I blame this society. Every single one of you who stand by quietly as this crap continues to FESTER (except the ones who actually do NOT just stand by with your thumb up your caboose). WHERE ARE THE FUCKING LAWYERS ON THIS? Do we STILL not have enough of them, in a NATION of LAWYERS???

Monday, September 29, 2008 07:14 PM

OT - A question for lawyers

The difference in real outcome (measured not by verdict but by, say, freedom of movement), please, between being declared unfit to stand trial due to psychological conditions, and being found not guilty by reason of insanity.

My logic-based version says that someone not guilty by reason of insanity, having been found in court to have committed a crime but not be responsible for the crime due to the insanity, gets put in an institution for the criminally insane, i.e. is essentially incarcerated, but not in a prison, and not as punishment. A person declared unfit to stand trial has never been shown to have done anything or committed a crime, mentally responsible or not, so they get...what? Released? Kept in an institution until such time as they are fit to stand trial? Put in an institution for the criminally insane because we don't make such distinctions?

It comes up because it is gradually becoming apparent to me that the state could torture someone until they were too insane to stand trial, and, conveniently, too insane to file a complaint under the Torture Victims Protection Act. If the state were alleging they had committed a crime, what would then happen?

Monday, September 29, 2008 08:27 PM

Oh!, Shooter

OMFG! The Safeway, IRS, Health Insurance, credit agencies, et.al. can datamine me till the cows home. But not the FBI by Jeebus. -- Shooter242

Gee, Shooter, maybe that's why the Constitution of the United States restricts what the government can do with regard to our privacy but is silent regarding what Safeway or other private entities can do. Why would you include the IRS in your otherwise pristine list of private agencies? Are your dealings with the IRS strictly voluntary?

Note to Pedinska.......

Big Thumb UP! Call your broker and tell him to BUY Viagra stock.

Monday, September 29, 2008 09:02 PM

GLENN FBI is watching

There is something wrong with your recording a couple of minutes in. Maybe the FBI is hard at work today silencing dissenting voices or your just having technical difficulties. I rebooted and tried other video streams which are working fine. It seems to be your recording. I'll check back in tomorrow to see if you fixed it. It was so typical it did not supprise me. He was just about to talk about his concerns about their new powers and suddenly .... nothing.... chirp, chirp....

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