I mean, all this hearsay, and I got tell Ivins looks like very peaceful kind of guy. (I know I'm judging a book by it's cover) It just seems to me that man look for cure would not have been interested in killing people with Anthrax. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

I would be nice to get some character witness just to talk about how they knew the late Mr. Irvins as the man.

I think that would actually help getting an independent investigation of all of this rubbish we're being told.

From the New York Sun, two years ago:

A federal judge in New York has ordered a journalist at ABC News, Brian Ross, to disclose the identities of the government sources he relied upon when reporting about the anthrax attacks of 2001.

Mr. Ross is now the sixth reporter to have been ordered to give up sources to assist with a civil lawsuit brought by a former Army scientist, Steven Hatfill, whom the government named as a "person of interest" in the investigation into the deadly anthrax mailings. Mr. Hatfill, who was never charged with the mailings, is suing the federal government for invading his privacy.

The ruling, signed last week by Judge Alvin Hellerstein of the U.S. District Court in Manhattan, comes a month after a federal judge in Washington first ordered five reporters from the Washington Post, Newsweek, and other news outlets to name their sources. Since that first order, two of the sources have come forward and identified themselves, according to a letter filed last week by a lawyer for Mr. Hatfill, Charles Kimmett. The letter does not identify the sources beyond saying they are former Justice Department employees, nor does it say to which reporters the sources spoke.

http://www.nysun.com/national/journalist-ross-of-abc-or... /

Yesterday, the Washington Post revealed details on when the FBI thinks Dr. Ivins went to Princeton to mail the first set of letters:

...

Meanwhile, bits of fresh information continued to come out. A partial log of Ivins's work hours shows that he worked late in the lab on the evening of Sunday, Sept. 16, signing out at 9:52 p.m. after two hours and 15 minutes. The next morning, the sources said, he showed up as usual but stayed only briefly before taking leave hours. Authorities assume that he drove to Princeton immediately after that, dropping the letters in a mailbox on a well-traveled street across from the university campus. Ivins would have had to have left quickly to return for an appointment in the early evening, about 4 or 5 p.m.

...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

However, on page 8 of the FBI affidavit:

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The investigation examined Dr. Ivins's laboratory activity immediately before and after the window of opportunity for the mailing of the Post and Brokaw letters to New York which began at 5:00 p.m. Monday, September 17,2001 and ended at noon on Tuesday, September 18,

2001.

....

http://www.usdoj.gov/amerithrax/07-524-M-01%20attachmen...

Frederick, MD to Princeton, NJ is a 3 1/2 hr drive, let's say 3 hrs speeding. So if he made a 4:XX meeting, he left Princeton at 1:XX on Monday the 17th. There's no way, using the leave hours cited, the Dr. Ivins could have made the window needed to mail the first batch of anthax.

I don't see mention of the microbiologist's "he stalked me for 30 years" AP story ... but what was conspicuously absent in her account was any actual "menace" or "bad feelings" ... the stalking (which may well have been Ivins for all I know -- she certainly has no proof) could just as easily be attributed to "unrequited affection" and something "malevolent" ... creepy, sure.

I have cringed many times over Ivins' coworkers and friends describing him as this sort of funny looking, small, nerdy, goofy guy... and felt relieved he was spared these casual comments. I suspect he was well-aware of the distain of these people. No, I'm not suggesting some "bullied take revenge" motive, but it is appalling to me how someone of Ivins' career and accomplishments becomes reduced to some cartoon figure without dignity.

Some of the alleged stalking incidents, appear to have been moments when Ivins was able to "show off" his accomplishments in her "non-nerd" world. She was very accomplished as well.

I've been stalked. It is creepy. But it was more creepy before the internet, google, and Classmates.com, not to mention those cheap internet "find someone fast" sites.

More anti-science, anti-intellectual boy's club world view. They're going to avoid all those fact-things. They found their nerdy, panty-sniffing, sorority-obsessed suspect 2 years ago -- there's no hint of doubt in THEIR minds ...

Bush would be proud.

Thomas Frank will be present for a live chat Book Salon at Firedoglake at 5 pm Eastern today. George Lakoff tomorrow at the same time.

Since we're in the comments horse latitudes before Glenn's next post, I'll offer the trivial observation that I'd never seen/heard Thomas Frank on the air before, AFAIK; I couldn't take his bubbling, somewhat manic style on yesterday's "Democracy Now". It really got in the way.

Maybe it was me; I unexpectedly had my first tooth extraction as an adult earlier this week-- molar #19-- and I'm still grieving.

But I think Frank would benefit from Glenn's services as an Understatement Coach.

What debate? The man is a moron. Ah, I mean: the man is ..., ah, deluded. Yes, that is the ticket. Deluded.

There is no objective way to tell the shoppers of America that the dollar is "surging". Surging? Is this a play on the Iraqi war "surge" in Baghdad?

Anyway, don't dignify these little quips as a debate.

In the last century we have never had a party in DC that believed in a "free market"; but we have had a party of assholes who claim to be so inclined.

Total USA debt as estimated by the US government (not an unbiased source by the way) in 2000 was 20 Trillion dollars and in 2006 it had risen to 65 Trillion dollars. I guess shooter would claim that we should thank god that the "tight fisted" Repugs were in power. Yes, Bush the Frugal!

Blah!