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Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:00 AM

Celebrating Cronkite while ignoring what he did

Cronkite's best moment was when he did exactly that which today's journalists insist they must never do.

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Sunday, July 19, 2009 02:21 PM

another government lover wants to kill the kid ...

Obviously, the hiker should have an appeal against the fine. -- macgupta

I love all the quotes from the people who fined the child 25,000 USD for the rescue used as justification for the act of fining the child. Yes, impartial quotes no doubt. I guess we should listen to "impartial" quotes from Dick Chaney as well?

The point, for the clueless here, is that the fine against a child of 25,000 is outrageous. No, it is out=fucking-rageous. Of cource, since they just changed the standard for fines, it was obvious that the state was going to do something outrageous.

Several states, including neighboring Maine and Vermont, have rescue repayment laws similiar to New Hampshire, though others tend to be more lenient. In Washington state, a bill that would have created a reimbursement system with fines capped at $500 never even made it out of committee this year. In New Hampshire, however, lawmakers made it even easier to charge for rescues last year when they changed the law to allow fines for those who acted negligently instead of the harder to prove standard of recklessness.

New Hampshire officials have estimated that they could seek reimbursement in about 40 of the 140 or so rescues it typically handles each year. The money goes to the Fish and Game department's rescue fund. In most cases, hikers pay a few hundred dollars.

And this child was hit by the all time record fine. What a way to start life, a fine for the amount that might pay for a couple years of college. Does New Hampshire have capital punishment?

But our big government lovers here at UT see no out of proportion act by the state of New Hampshire. None at all.

Whatever.

Sunday, July 19, 2009 02:27 PM

Eucalyptus

Why are you still...

...discussing a stupid kid lost on a f"*=$!n mountainn!!!! This blog is about Walter Cronkite and the misrepresentations by the MSM.

Its because the dumb kid is still alive. And whilst he remains alive there always the prospect that he might entertain us further with more examples of his dumbness. Whereas Walter Cronkite was always just a dead white male in a suit even when he was alive and now he's died he's just become even deader.

Sunday, July 19, 2009 02:32 PM

ondelette

Doesn't sound like your law blog knows how these things go. In particular, that isn't a fine, it's the charge for the search and rescue. It's nothing particularly new, they've been charging people when they had to do needless search and rescue operations in New Hampshire since I was a teenager.

You call it a "charge" and I call it a "fine". So? If you don't pay it what happens? I put things into my own language, and I see no difference in the two words. So, I'll use your word.

By the way, the hit on the credibility of the lawyer you don't even know due to my own choice of words is priceless --- and normal for you. It is a great tactic for those who only care about "winning" -- but in a nice "humanitarian" way.

The state of New Hampshire charged a child 25,000 USD instead of the normal few hundred dollars and you see no problem. Why am I not surprised at all?

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20090717/NEWS/907179947/1062

Several states, including neighboring Maine and Vermont, have rescue repayment laws similiar to New Hampshire, though others tend to be more lenient. In Washington state, a bill that would have created a reimbursement system with fines capped at $500 never even made it out of committee this year. In New Hampshire, however, lawmakers made it even easier to charge for rescues last year when they changed the law to allow fines for those who acted negligently instead of the harder to prove standard of recklessness.

New Hampshire officials have estimated that they could seek reimbursement in about 40 of the 140 or so rescues it typically handles each year. The money goes to the Fish and Game department's rescue fund. In most cases, hikers pay a few hundred dollars.

In most cases hikers are adults. In most cases hikers pay a few hundred dollars. In this case a child is charged 25,000 dollars.

And you see no problem.

Whatever.

Sunday, July 19, 2009 02:43 PM

another fool safety lecture ...

I am beginning to suspect that mac-whatever wants to force, with all the power of the government, the child in question to pay an eternal penitence for his acting in a childish manner.

I am also amused that a couple here think they are the only ones who have ever hiked or helped in a rescue. Real experts on damn near everything, these two.

Once, we had a whole group of fools come to east Tennessee from Ohio. A school group. It was late in the winter and one would not expect a freak snow storm --- unless you were tracking the damn thing cross the state on TV. Well they would not listen and sure enough they got into big trouble someplace on the Appalachian Trail. Fools did not believe we dumb ass southerners as to the danger.

They were found at great trouble and expense. The leader, not any of the children, suffered frostbite. That was the only penalty. No fine. No "charge for services rendered."

But then, we are much nicer in the south it looks like.

Sunday, July 19, 2009 02:47 PM

You are waste of space if you dunno that "charge" means "The Charge of the Light Brigade"

which happened about 1850 (I was just a suckling baybee at time) but them damn Engalanders were in Crimea at time, which was none of their bizzyness as it's part of Russia. Bluddy fool Lord Cardigan was charging with 600 sad sacks and that Lord's cardi was torn to pieces. Lord Lucan was there too, showing off, but he was lucky and lived to great old age and disappeared in 1970s after murdering a few people in London. According to Grizelda, some maniacs say they see Lord Lucan and Elvis dancing can-can in Folies Bergere in Paris. Engalanders not too good but French is debauched, worst of all for lotta funny stuff.

Sunday, July 19, 2009 02:55 PM

yeah tell em Heru -

I once pressed just a red bottom at a hotel in Manhattan and the Fire department showed up -

And there I was- just this little innocent child (not older than three) - and I was hit by a all time big fine (my parents payed it a but gave me a really bad conscious)

What a way to start my life, my bad conscious probably even cost me a couple years of college. Does Fire departments have capital punishment?

But our big government lovers here at UT see no out of proportion act by the New York Fire department. None at all.

Whatever.

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