But don't you kinda feel a sense of ownership that a whole area of our country is called New England?

Anyway, you made me laugh.

I never looked into the Kennedy thing to much but I know if I did it would stink to high heaven.

But now I've got something here for you to look at. ondelette take note. Its about a subject about which I am strictly not any more going to discuss with anyone here. But if you try the below link and watch the vids in question I think you might be convinced of the evidence presented about more recent state crimes.

Three videos, Part 1,2, & 3, total running time around 28 mins

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1F271C700C5A9C1A

If anyone does wish to comment or engage in discussion about these matters may I suggest going here:

Bill Owen's

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10935592&postID=431205452461791316

Oh, I thought you were talking about the hair color:

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mr snoid, The Constant Weedsmoker at www.RealityDistort.com

When Omar is framed and arrested, Omar demands to see a lawyer. Roshan explains to him - We are the FBI and we have detained you. As a terrorism suspect, you have no rights. We can hold you indefinitely and anything can happen to you (hints of Abu Ghraib type stuff).

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I'm not sure to what extent an Indian audience would be aware, but it seemed to me that part of the message was, this type of thing did not used to happen in US.

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While Omar is spying on his friends for the FBI, he and Roshan have several debates.

Roshan's various arguments are, the US has given me (a brown Muslim) a trusted position in the FBI - would this happen in any other country - so it is my duty to do this. Yes, a lot of mistakes were made in treating Sam and others like we did, but we have to look forward. (On Maya's death) something things happen that are nobody's fault, just people trapped in bad circumstances. (What we're fighting for?) (this at the very end of the movie) see Sam's son (a brown Muslim), his father died as a terrorist, and yet his softball team is carrying him on their shoulders for hitting the winning home run? We are fighting for that for the next generation. (Implicitly - that is what justifies all our mistakes.)

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When Omar is trying to dissuade Sam from setting off bombs, one argument he uses is that all that will happen is the FBI will pick up a thousand new Sams, and the cycle will never end.

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Some audience reactions:

The US acted correctly as far as national security goes.

If anyone feels so broken as to become disfunctional, it is better that they commit suicide than kill others. Nothing justifies terrorism.

(Pointed out that an entire nation can go mad, as US did with respect to Iraq, so individuals can go mad too.) The feeling was roughly that government is out of an individual's control, but an individual is in control of their own choices.

The US does something right. We do not feel the nervousness here that e.g., you'd feel entering a Muslim area of town in India.

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Actually not sure why I posted this. Just a disturbing movie and reactions, and a seeming lack of understanding that liberty and lawfulness are very much tied together.

This piece should be read by editors and publishers who persist in wondering about the fate of newspapers. There is no place for a "news media" which serves no purpose other than competition for the trashy magazines at the checkout. If there were "real" journalists, people would still be willing to pay for their product. But there aren't. So they won't.

Congratulations on a very good piece of writing

"Coming on Meet The Press allows you to frame the conversation how you really want to" David Gregory to Mark Sanford

http://tinyurl.com/lhyw4u

David Gregory's letter to Mark Sanford is clear evidence that Gregory hosts a kabuki show where the viewing audience is lead to believe the newsman is interviewing the news makers in a context that has INTEGRITY. It doesn't.

This is the kind of revelation that must be acted upon in order to effect the kind of change we have been talking about in these pages, the kind of change Jay Rosen is interested in, the kind of journalism Walter Cronkite represented.

But don't you kinda feel a sense of ownership that a whole area of our country is called New England?

Not in least and never have. The word "New" and the word "England" do not run together easily of the English person's tongue. "Old" does. "Old England". "Ye Olde Worlde England" kept alive for the tourists yes but New? What's that about then? We will only hear the term "New England" here in England if and when an English Nationalist party starts up. And if the term is used here it WILL be a fascist term.

As for New Hampshire I really can't get my head around that one at all. The southern English county of Hampshire is a quite pretty one with plenty of heath forest rolling fields and downs. Its a temperate thing in mood and geography. There is nothing so grass as a fucking mountain there,let alone a whole bloody range of them. And to call this New HAMPSHIRE of yours The GRANITE State is to almost describe some aborted mixture of Aberdeenshire in the rough northern part of Scotland with the gentility of a southern English home county. Edinburgh is known as the Granite City in our Isles.

You can apparently watch it online,

http://www.onlinewatchmovies.net/2009/06/new-york-2009-hindi-movie-watch-online.html

"Coming on Meet The Press allows you to frame the conversation how you really want to" David Gregory to Mark Sanford

Given that that is wildly known to be its general principle calling it "Press the Meat" has got to be an old one hasn't it?