Its one of the reasons I don't give the bastards the time of day. I can't tell if they are pig ignorant or lying their asses off, so I tend to just whack them like moles whenever they appear on the lawn in front of me.

Read it earlier. I think Harris is going well out on a limb. Seeing is believing, proofs in the pudding and the Uranium is in the ore.

Agree with Glenn. Watching all the fawning and preening since Friday night announcement has been nauseating at best. Brian Williams, "watching Walter Cronkite in the old Black and White television days and looking up to him as a hero" Really, I think color TV has been around now for a good 45 years or so and I think Brian is younger than I am. None of these talkers should ever be calling themselves reporters or journalists I think disclaimers should be scrolled all through what passes as news reporting these days, as usual they are just trying to ride on the coattails of giants. They are trying to make us believe that they are Walter Cronkites heirs and he is probably gagging in heaven. They are nothing but actors and actresses working for the monolithic and monopolistic networks.

Sean Hannity had one of the Apollo crew on his show that same night and of course it was all about Sean the guests are just something one has to put up with. He is just an example of all or most of them liberal or conservative they are paid millions a year to carry water for the powers that be, or believe everything the say about themselves, and gossip about rumors. The white house press corps is a joke, why do they exist. Government learned long ago how to control these people, if they ask a tough question they are no longer called on and the powerful will not appear on any pundit shows that presume to ask a tough question, I think Russert knew that as well as anyone,rule one ratings and show come first. Notice how all networks get the same "exclusive" interviews? They just line up and take their turn. President Obama giving interviews to network "chief medical correspondents" on health care reform,what a joke.

Better discussion, both pro and con, about the kid on Mt. Washington.

http://www.mountwashington.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5168

BTW, when reading, MWO is Mount Washington Observatory (on the top of the mountain), and the one guy, Brian Clark, works there (and therefore largely lives there).

What was odd about this article was the author's repeated use of "they" and not "we" when talking about journalists. Salon and the author are, at least in my mind, the press.

It is tempting to try to exempt oneself, but when your article is about people exempting themselves, it should be done carefully.

Reading your post about Cronkite is tough medicine to someone who grew up during his time on the air, but its helpful if we are to avoid a repeat of the Iraq war run-up.

Some reporters on current times have done well. Natalya Estemirova and Anna Politkovskaya come to mind. Hunter Thompson had his own style but it reminded us not to be too much in awe of our leaders. Jon Stewart and Glenn Greenwald are of current inestimable value.

Some reporters on current times have done well. Natalya Estemirova and Anna Politkovskaya come to mind.

What, exactly, is your definition of 'done well'?

Glenn: I have to agree with you. As someone who has put nearly 58 years in as a resident of this planet, I have personally witnessed the precipitous decline of American journalism. However, four nights a week I have the consolation of watching Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert do the job that the so-called members of the Fourth Estate refrain from doing on a regular basis.

You know, as a seventh-grade American history teacher, I do a lesson on John Peter Zenger, who was thrown into prison for criticizing the royal governor of New York, charged with seditious libel; his acquittal by a jury of his peers, who believed his lawyer's argument that what can be proven to be true is not libel, helped establish the idea of freedom of the press. To show my students that this idea is alive and well I no longer show them The New York Times or Washington Post; instead, I screen a segment of The Daily Show.

D.O.B.A.

Cronkite was simply just another “Herd Control” mechanism of Skippy Geobbles (a.k.a. mass media).

Wanna hear protest songs again? Well you’ll need to start draftin’ the rich ‘cause the po’ folk ain’t the owners of any mass media outlets, e.g., tv, radio,

news[hahahahaheeheehee]papers or other means of propaganda.

Cronkite never got booed until he championed her on Letterman.

What was odd about this article was the author's repeated use of "they" and not "we" when talking about journalists. Salon and the author are, at least in my mind, the press.

It is tempting to try to exempt oneself, but when your article is about people exempting themselves, it should be done carefully.

-- brewster

Glenn Greenwald, the "author" of the "aritlce" wasn't referring to "the Press". He was referring to "media stars". Is Glenn Greenwald a "media star", at least in your "mind"? Because that is the theme of the article. Not "the press". Is Salon a "leading media outlet" as in TV news outlets such as ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, MSNBC, CNN or radio magazine and news paper outlets?

media stars everywhere commemorated his death as though he [Halberstam] were one of them -- as though they do what he did -- even though he had nothing but bottomless, intense disdain for everything they do.--GG

Can anyone imagine any big media stars -- who swoon in reverence both to political power and especially military authority -- defying military instructions that way, let alone being proud of it? Halberstam certainly couldn't imagine any of them doing it, which is why, in 1999, he wrote:--GG

All of that was ignored when he died, with establishment media figures exploiting his death to suggest that his greatness reflected well on what they do, as though what he did was the same thing as what they do--GG

These days, our leading media outlets won't even use words that are disapproved of by the Government.--GG

Despite that, media stars will spend ample time flamboyantly commemorating Cronkite's death as though he reflects well on what they do--GG

Tim Russert, whose sycophantic servitude to Beltway power and "accommodating head waiter"-like, mindless stenography did indeed represent quite accurately what today's media stars actually do). In fact, within Cronkite's most important moments one finds the essence of journalism that today's modern media stars not only fail to exhibit, but explicitly disclaim as their responsibility.--GG