Read it earlier. I think Harris is going well out on a limb. Seeing is believing, proofs in the pudding and the Uranium is in the ore.

Its one of the reasons I don't give the bastards the time of day. I can't tell if they are pig ignorant or lying their asses off, so I tend to just whack them like moles whenever they appear on the lawn in front of me.

"We We have been too often disappointed by the optimism of the American leaders, both in Vietnam and Washington, to have faith any longer in the silver linings they find in the darkest clouds. . . .

Have the ring of both emotion and poltical leaning. They encourage a position rather than giving facts that may lead individuals to make a decision.

-- Christopher1988 "Have the ring of both emotion and poltical leaning. They encourage a position rather than giving facts that may lead individuals to make a decision."

-- Christopher1988

As a journalist he was stating a fact, the same fact many here state and that they " have been too often disappointed by the optimism of the American leaders, both in Vietnam and Washington, to have faith any longer in the silver linings they find in the darkest clouds. . . ."

Exchange Iraq/Afghanistan for Vietname and you have the same scenario. To me it sounds like Walter Cronkite was just using poite terminology topoint out that people were sick to death of being lied to. As I ahve said before Americans are often tooo polite.

I would add that the same statement of cronkites' could be made about most in the MSM.

Someitmes it is a journalists' job to find the truth as well as the facts, whihc is why Cronkite was held in such high esteem. We had journalists like that in Australia but it seems they too have coaught the American MSM disease.

ON another note, has anyone reported on this in the USA today?

This from the Guardian in the UK

"Bush's key men face grilling on torture and death squads;

"Former vice-president Dick Cheney could be forced to testify to Congress over allegations that a secret hit squad was set up on his orders, as Democrats press for inquiries into the conduct of the 'war on terror'. Paul Harris reports from New York"

here is the link

http:/www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/19/george-bush-dick-cheney-torture

Is this the edge of the wedge?

True, and pointed out in the articles jlnow3 cites. Of course, to acknowledge that possession of materials to produce a weapon is a far cry from actually producing that weapon would only serve to highlight the specious nature of the underlying argument.

I am a Social Studies teacher. I became one late in my career. At first, being intimidated by the status quo and being aware of my lack of experience as a teacher, I never, ever let the kids know my point of view even though I was very uncomfortable with that. At first I wasn't sure why. After all, I was told it was important for them to come to their own conclusions and I certainly agree with that. But slowly as the years passed it began to dawn on me that teaching them the Constitution and how those who found our country thought the populace needed to be educated to keep our republic could not be honestly done without giving them my opinion. Not because they had to think like me. But because as American citizens they needed to learn it was okay to challenge me! Without telling them what I thought based on my own knowledge and experiences, how can I model for them tolerance for diverse opinions? How can I model for them free speech? Explain how lucky we are to have freedom of assembly and petition? When they look up facts on a topic before a presidential debate and after the debate they are upset because the candidate was not honest am I supposed to be "neutral"? That is just cowardly of me. I want them to feel how brave our own Civil Rights workers were and how brave the Iranian people are! I found out that if I didn't tell them my opinion it was much easier to manipulate them because they have nothing to challenge! I can pretend I'm innocent! Not take responsibility for what I say. Even be unaware that what I have just said might be biased. Giving them the truth about what I think, thinking out loud (and I always tell them when it's my opinion and when I'm thinking out loud, or, when I'm not sure what I think, telling them that, too, - sharing what I do know others have said and why I haven't made up my mind) - giving them my truth frees them to give their own. It shows I respect them and think that what they think matters.

At the end of the year I ask them to write me a letter to help me be a better teacher.Every year, one of the main themes is to thank me for telling them what I really think "it made Social Studies fun" "I liked talking about what we think. It made me understand better about what happened". I teach 6, 7, and 8 grades.

Cronkite said something like: I give people the information they need to know in order to be good citizens. That's what he did. The kids in my classes are not stupid - if anything, they are at an age where they like to challenge. But in my class they must come armed with information - they are preparing to be good citizens - tolerant of reasoned points of view and not afraid to challenge BS no matter who it's coming from - even me - their Social Studies teacher.

In return for my honesty and respect for them, they give me theirs. There is nothing better for our democracy.

And I think I learned that from Walter Cronkite.

Saddam had yellow cake uranium

When I stated that Saddam had tons of yellow cake uranium, in addition to other weapons of mass destruction (WMD), I was cursed and mocked by the left-wing America haters in here.

I didn’t mock you. But when I read your comment I did drop the America that I was busily hating at that time in order to better feel my bitter disappointment that the entire 500 tons of wretched stuff couldn’t suddenly fall down on your head from a very dizzy height.

Yellow cake is no more a weapon of mass destruction than the lead in the ground could be immediately used for bullets. In fact a great deal more expensive, complicated, labour intensive and time-consuming processes would need to be gone through in order to extract a pitiful amount of usable stuff from the ore than ever would be needed to turn lead into a bullet.

So in spite of your prattle about yellow cake I still can’t find the element of “Clear & Present Danger,” that would supply the all important frisson necessary to stir ones ass from the couch and go to war in spite of the colour of the uniforms clashing dreadfully with the colour of one’s eyes.