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Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:00 AM

Our political class in a nutshell

An Obama official (about Afghans): "We believe anyone suspected of war crimes should be thoroughly investigated."

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 06:49 AM

The death of irony

I saw that NY Times story and when I got to the money quote:

"We believe that anyone suspected of war crimes should be thoroughly investigated."

I thought I had to post it to your site. But of course, you were already on top of it.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 06:55 AM

Change you can believe in....

Two dimes and a nickel for a quarter....

Saturday, July 11, 2009 06:56 AM

The deal

President Obama told Congressional leaders that he did not want a special inquiry, which he said would potentially steal time and energy from his ambitious policy priorities

I can't think how it can be any more clear. I happen to think it is a bad deal, a false deal, and absolutely not the deal many of us voted for.

However, there it is. The only way that investigations will go forward is if citizens pressure their representatives (and media signs on) to do it. Obama may even secretly want this but I don't care anymore. Realistically, it really shouldn't be his choice.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 06:57 AM

Stanley McChrystal

This war criminal should be one of the first ones investigated and imprisoned. There is documentation he imprisoned thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq. His prison was horribly run, torturing prisoners to death. He actively hid his prison from the ICRC. He took an active role in the cover-up of the murder of Pat Tillman.

But no, he can't be investigated for these war crimes because OS Obama put him in charge of the whole fookin' war effort in Afghanistan and he was approved for that role in a voice vote by the Senate.

See the diary at my name for links to substantiate the list of charges against this war criminal.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 06:58 AM

As long as war crimes is what's for breakfast...

might as well throw this one on the pile:

This past March, as RAW STORY reported, investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell when he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the Bush Administration was running an “executive assassination ring” which reported directly to former Vice President Dick Cheney.

“It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on,” Hersh stated. “Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.”

“The revelation from seven Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee that they were misled about a critical CIA program has sparked a debate that touches on the most sensitive areas of national security policy,” Huffington Post’s Sam Stein wondered Thursday. “What program, exactly, was being kept secret?”

Panetta admitted that the CIA had been “concealing significant actions” from Congress since 2001.Stein wrote that one “theory being bandied about concerns an ‘executive assassination ring’ that was allegedly set up and answered to former Vice President Dick Cheney,” although his article didn’t cite sources for the claim. The reporter spoke to Rep. Anna Eshoo, (D-Calif.), a signatory to the CIA letter, about the theory.

Asked if this was the basis of her letter to Panetta, Eshoo said she could not discuss what was a “highly classified program.” She did, however, note that when Panetta told House Intelligence Committee members what it was that had been kept secret, “the whole committee was stunned, even Republicans.” A Republican committee member told Who Runs Gov’s Greg Sargent it was something they hadn’t heard before.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 07:08 AM

Sure they do.

It doesn't appear that they know what the word "anyone" means.

It means "anyone but us" of course.

American Exceptionalism: it's what's for breakfast, lunch, and dinner for the foreseeable future. Eat up.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 07:13 AM

But when we don't investigate

it's for a good reason -- we must look forward, can't interfere with Obama's agenda, yadda, yadda, yadda.

When they don't investigate, it's because they don't believe in the rule of law.

Paging Ms. Shepherd.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 07:14 AM

This Is Just Crazy

It should be obvious to anyone that this is wrong. What chance do we have as a nation of law when our leaders ignore this and pretend that people that bring it up are the crazy ones?

Saturday, July 11, 2009 07:26 AM

Warlord is not news

I recall this sort of thing popping up in Jane Mayer's "The Dark Side" ... it's useful that the stuff keeps on being brought to our attention, including more details, but at some level it's -- yeah, we know this.

And, the there is limited accountability. The two dimes and a nickel for a quarter barb is cute, and somewhat to point, but it's also like someone who uses cheap sunscreen ...

they still are hot and get burned, but the alternative is worse.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 07:27 AM

PS

until something is REALLY changed and the available options aren't so bad.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 07:35 AM

@jmatrix

Roveian technique # 12: When caught, claim this is "old news."

Also, Glenn's point is about underscoring the bullshit uttered by our political class (granted that concept is not "new news" either). In this context, the quote "We believe anyone suspected of war crimes..." practically jumps out at you and begs for commentary.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 07:37 AM

Is problem not knowing what is right and what is wrong? Or is doing what is right the truly hard thing for Barack Obama to do? A profile in courage this is not.

Meanwhile Barack Obama-American President and the guy who could pull the covers off lots of Bush/Cheney WH run amoks/corruption is in Africa lecturing Africans about corruption. Is this not just so hypocritical and pathetic?

Still a long ways to go before President Obama's first year in the WH is up--the impending flame-out of credibility and integrity this Obama WH is at or nearing within first six month measure is readily observable.

Ex-President Bush is enjoying a happy simpletons retirement and Ex-Vice President Richard Cheney seems to have no problem availing himself of media coverage and face time on American teevee.

President Obama seems very prone to bending on principle and going all murky on taking basic stands on right and wrong conduct.

Oh--by the way--still no denouncement from President Obama on ongoing Israeli brutal conduct regarding Gaza.

"We believe anyone suspected of war crimes should be thoroughly investigated."

Right. Liars tell lies. And the lies are flowing out of this Obama WH.

President Obama--is knowing the right thing to do or doing the right thing this hard for you? Really--is it?

Saturday, July 11, 2009 07:45 AM

Spew

It's all just spew. They know that the percentage of the electorate that's paying close attention is small. No one is concerned because they're not reading the NY Times and the boob tube says nothing about it.

The mystery to me is why Obama is selling out to them. Sometimes I wonder if ignorance IS bliss?

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