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Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:00 AM

The significance of McClatchy's act of journalism

Yet another story reflects the danger of assuming the truth of unproven government claims and the use of anonymity.

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Friday, July 10, 2009 11:23 AM

Bill Owen

When the Taleban blow up children, they are responsible. When American's blow up children, then Americans are responsible.

Its a well known fact and long established fact that when hostilities break out the scum rises and the shits have their day. One of the reasons of not starting a war without damned good reason. Well the Taliban are most certainly NOT responsible for starting this war. The blame primarily lies with the Americans. So as far as I'm concerned the US/Britain are not only responsible for the deaths they directly cause but bear a degree of responsibility for ALL the deaths caused by the other side who wouldn't have been doing this particular killing were it not for the war that had been imposed upon them.

And its worth thinking like this in order to not let the likes of ondelette come over all falsely pious and concerned when they kill their own.

ondelette, is still personally responsible for this war as he is for the torture that whether he likes it or not WAS done in HIS name.

Still waiting for the evidence ondellette.

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:24 AM

LondonLad on reasoning it through

So, al Quida who wanted the US out of Islamic lands attacked US government/military targets abroad. Their fight was with the US government NOT the American people.

Al Qaeda's fight has always been with the forces of secularism in Islamic society. That is practically the definition of Wahabism.

It was their agenda in 2001, it was their agenda in 1999, in 1997, in 1994, and in 1991. It was bin Laden's agenda when he went to fight the Soviets.

It is still their agenda. If there is one thing these guys are, it is consistent.

Doing that which had never been done before[1] — directly attacking internationally recognized symbols of American power on American soil — was simply a means to that end. They said this the first time they tried it, they said it the last time they tried it, and they said it every time in between.

I may as well ask myself, "How could so many people have believed the moon was made of green cheese — if it wasn't true?!?"

There are some questions whose very structure reveals their fallacy. Why not ask instead, "Why was it al Qaeda every other time but the one time when they succeeded?"

... to which you inevitably reply, "Because that one time it wasn't! QED!"

And then I get really annoyed, because there are important things for us all to be working on together, and this crap is just a way to avoid having to cowperson up and face reality, which is exactly the same thing that the American press is doing.

You are all the same in the one way that actually matters.

And that makes me sad, and angry, and so I stop writing for a while.

1. Except by Canadians, I hasten to remind everyone. Watch out!

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:28 AM

re: Wait, what's that? You say you didn't plan anything at all? You were totally ignorant the entire time?

Oh no, I did know that idiot Regan was involved in Afghanistan and taking sides in a war. I did not know that my favorite president Carter had also gotten his hands dirty in the area until some time later.

I was against intervention then; and am against it now.

Has our resident comedian been as steadfast in his political positions?

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:30 AM

@ Pedinska

It would look something like the link at sig.But with beards and black turbans.

I hope the interment camp I wind up in lets us dance en masse to 80s music, although I prefer Duran Duran to Michael Jackson. And, I look terrible in orange. Can I wear teal?

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:30 AM

antineocon

But I really wonder what the hell the secret program is. My imagination is running rampant. Out of control!

I'm thinking that this, like the photos, will slowly seep out in dribs and drabs. While I'm laying awake wondering, I plan on offering up prayers to the deities that this will be the information that leads to the neutering of the Corporation for Insidious Actions.

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:31 AM

Guilt

You would think that a President who was accused of being a terrorist himself because he knew Bill Ayers would understand this.

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:35 AM

Amity

I think its important to make clear just how different Al Qaida is from other mulsim-based political movements in the Middle East. Since the issue just came up, this is a perfect opportunity to do so.

The mistake is made by those on the right and center who seek to broaden their Al Qaida mandate to other countries troubles, and by those on the left who seek to find some kind of validation for anti-imperialist rhetoric on the other.

AL Qaida is led by the sons of Middle East affluence, they are an organization that has no basis are transnational and have no concrete goals! That last part is the most important. How do you realistically resolve tension with Al Qaida? You can't, they don't want anything but to create disorder--that's their mandate, and one which prima facae [sp?] can seem attractive to people who live in repressive states supported by the US. Ultimately, it must be acknowledged that US policies in the Middle East engendered the rise of Al Quaeda, but that terminating those policies won't necessarily ever satisfy the organization. Its a very simple story of creating a monster, and a clear issue of blowback, and should have been--but failed to be--a clear lesson of the impact of US policies in the Middle East.

There's a clear difference from groups like Al Qaeda and Hezbollah [and Fatah, not so long ago] which do have clear goals and very localized. You can eliminate the military wing of Hezbollah, by allowing them free access to the levers of democratic political power--we've seen that to some extent. The same with Hamas. Literally, they have such defined goals that negotiationg with them works wonders that are patently obvious.

Any way, thought I'd throw that out there.

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:35 AM

omooex

Thanks.

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:40 AM

-- heru-ur, you know how it works

Whenever one mentions that our freedom bombs are a direct manifestation of onelette's ideology (liberal intervention), or mentions that ondelette has long called for and supported our Af-Pak freedom bombing, one will be told to "learn more".

It allows him to slip away and continue preaching the so-called virtues of his mass-murdering chickenhawk crusade without having to acknowledge the perceived negative consequences. A trap door, an escape hatch, a quick, fallacious appeal to authority and its right back to cheerleading US intervention.

Rinse and repeat, forever, though you can be rest assured that he and his ilk, after ignoring the hundreds killed this week from the sky by USAF robots, will have hundreds of "fact-filled" links to every Afghan puppy born with a puppy smile thanks to us bombs, and will use these puppy smiles to justify our omnipresence in the region.

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