Has anyone written an updated version on 'Propganda and Pscholgical Warfare, since the advent of the internet?

The last book I read on this, which I get out from time to time "Propganda and Psycholgical Warfare, Terence H. Qualter, in 1962.

Yea well I did not start to take the topic off subject, It was the usual jerks. I guess I allowed them to suck me in.

Some people are gifted and can read massive amounts of stuff and retain almost all of it. My mom could read a whole book of 350 pages or so in one night - I'm lucky to make it thru 30. Dyslexia or just stupid, dont know.

The point is, we need better, smarter people in the media - like GG, who seems to have lots of ram and a huge hardrive to pull from. By and large, the masses out here are fucking stupid dumb terminals.

Along with the concerted, successful attempt dumb down the population - the MIC and the Pentagon and friends have stuck an ice pick in the brain of the media and have successfully branded it, thru repetition and pernicious propaganda, 'the liberal media.' Smart, good Americans have fallen for this powerful meme, keeping the herd divided.

GG pointing it out over and over helps a lot but it is quite a tide to turn.

I fear that having 'a left wing' (Huffy, Kos) media and a 'right wing' media just serves to perpetuate the left/right black hole we've been sucked into.

'Read all the news, otherwise you might not get the whole story. "

-- ondelette

Oh thank you for that. That's a point I have been trying wihout much sucess to drive home.

Paul Krugman:

According to a new site called Mediaite, Mark Bittman of the Times is the 8th most influential columnist in America, ahead of Arianna Huffington.

It’s also noteworthy that Glenn Greenwald of Salon is #10.

On the other hand, Christopher Hitchens is #5. Why would God allow that?

And the less said about #1, the better …

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/

The combination of all those things - my total irrelevance and obscurity being noted in the NYT, the Bible of Truth - might make her head explode.

I can't even read to the end of these things anymore, because I'm so angry about it, and feel so helpless. I'd really like for somebody to write an article about what can be done about this kind of thing. What can be done? It's so depressing.

The combination of all those things - my total irrelevance and obscurity being noted in the NYT, the Bible of Truth - might make her head explode.

-- GlennGreenwald

Well I am here reading you aren't I, and my head is still intact.

Gee I never saw you mentioned in the NYT print version.

"Too dangerous to release" -- it sounds like they have supernatural powers or something.

They're just men and they don't have any more special powers than any of the thousands of young jihadis out there vying to replace them and outdo them every single day.

They're like drops in the bucket by now and they're not even up on the secret handshakes any more.

but that never meant that the Taliban were wonderful indigenous freedom fighters, did it? They always have funded themselves on heroin.

Yer talking shit, there.

Taliban's Eradication of Poppies Is Convulsing Opium Market

By BARBARA CROSSETTE

Published: Wednesday, June 13, 2001

The unexpected success of the Taliban in Afghanistan in eradicating three-quarters of the world's crop of opium poppies in one season is leading experts to ask where production is likely to spring up next.

The director of the United Nations Drug Control Program, Pino Arlacchi, said there was no chance that opium from other sources would compensate this year for the loss of Afghan crops, and the prices of opium and heroin will rise substantially, with opium already worth five to seven times its usual price. His program helped convince the Taliban that opium is a disgrace to Islam.

(link @ sig)

See? That was June 2001. Then came 9/11, War on Afghanistan, blah blah blah, and now we've got a big heroin problem. Hell, one might even get a little skeptical about whether it's the Taliban this time around.

I wish more people knew what a great resource Glenn and the UT community are for just that kind of advice.

Lazy cable networks should scroll Glenn's web address at the bottom of the screen every time they run stories on civil liberties,torture, indefinition detention or state claims to secrecy: it wouldn't cost them much and would help support real journalism and lively, engaged debate.

pwetending he just doesn't see ? ? ?

hee hee hee

a *LOT*, a WHOLE LOT...

ho ho ho

and this interminable series of similar (yet singular!) incidents which are only rarely revealed by either intrepid reporting and/or too-rare whistleblowers (although it is no wonder, given how The System (tm) abuses them) demonstrate either :

A. a working system which -by golly and molly's knickers!- just *somehow* manages to nearly always produce incompetent, stupid, blind, and anti-citizen legislators, who -gosh darn it to heck!- *somehow* always produce pro-bidness, pro-power elite, pro-profit, and anti-people legislation which showers money on the korporations out of the pockets of 90% of us... somehow...

ha ha ha

OR,

B. a corrupt system which is bent to the will of the power elites, who use its functions to game the system and rape the people; all the while maintaining a 'plausible democracy' with plenty of cheezy doodles, sugar water, and circuses for the messes...

(oh, and worship Empire's (tm) mercenaries, you stupid sheeple! ! !)

ak ak ak

red pill, blue pill...

hmmm hmmm hmmm

art guerrilla

aka ann archy

art guerrilla@windstream.net

eof

Gee I never saw you mentioned in the NYT print version.

You don't read your favorite paperBible very carefully then.

a masterpiece

there has always been journalist who don't do a good job check out the facts and substantiate their sources, and sometimes it take rouges to get a good story.

She also had lots of inventive places to store weapons.

Mona can back me up on this. ;-}