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Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:00 AM

The significance of McClatchy's act of journalism

Yet another story reflects the danger of assuming the truth of unproven government claims and the use of anonymity.

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Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:21 PM

@lysias

So weren't any online outfits invited?

__________

Online "journalists" areren't actual professionals, and might be improperly influenced.

Professionals, on the other hand, have been to J-school and have learned how to booze and shmooze on the 4th and then ask rough, tough questions on the 5th.

It's an elite skill.

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:26 PM

lysias

I started to become suspicious when, a few days after 9/11,

the U.S. government promised to make public evidence establishing bin Laden's guilt, and then failed to make good on the promise.

That was one of the purposes of the cooked up false warnings that went ignored. I watched the whole thing live. There were already talking heads in studios saying that Osama was responsible even before the second plane hit. They were only able to start putting the Osama brand stamp on the events because of the existence of these so called warnings. The warnings also worked as proof of his involvement BEFORE the event meaning no proper police investigation need be done AFTER the event.

Oh and it left the top brass of the hook. They were made to look like silly butter fingers who dropped the warnings before they read them. The only time Cheney was pleased to be seen as an incompetent.

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:31 PM

@ bernbart - WTH?

Al Jarizzi - isn't he a singer?

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:32 PM

Another act of journalism?

Via Scott Horton:

Behind Guantanamo's walls, there are more walls
By Meg Laughlin, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Sunday, July 5, 2009
GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba

The doctor in charge of the Guantanamo prison hospital says he's "extremely proud" to be there, but he won't give his name. A pale man with auburn hair in his 50s, he tells us he's an internist from Jacksonville and to call him "Smo" — for senior medical officer. The head nurse says to call her "Audi" — like the car. Forgive them if they gush, they say, as we walk through the shiny hospital, but they are "bowled over" by the quality of care for the prison's 240 detainees. The hospital is a regular stop on the media tour of Guantanamo, which, the military has gone to great lengths to convince the world, is operating in a "safe, humane, legal and transparent" manner despite previous stories. But seeing patients is impossible, Smo tells us, even with their permission in hand. Instead we're led through the empty X-ray room and the endoscopy lab, while a noise machine gurgles loudly in the background. Audi tells the four reporters on the media tour that the noise machine helps sick inmates rest. FBI reports, available to anyone with an Internet connection, say it was once used for sensory deprivation during interrogations. We ask about the rail-thin Yemeni detainee, 31, whose death was widely reported the week before. Didn't he die in the hospital? "Can't talk about it because it's under investigation," Smo says. We ask about the daily forced-feeding of a few dozen hunger strikers who are protesting years in isolation. Three former detainees have told me the procedure is "sadistic" because of the restraint chair and how the tube is jammed in and jerked out.

Smo objects to that characterization, preferring to describe the sessions as "endearing" because detainees report "their brothers who are starving themselves to help each other." ... [emphasis mine]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/war/article1015673.ece

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:33 PM

professional ethics

Online "journalists" areren't actual professionals, and might be improperly influenced

It's an elite skill.

-- sysprog

A better way to put it might be... many Online journalist aren't professionals at all, and many do not follow ethics set forth.

Most professionals honor the ethics of an event like this. A good journalist will take a note pad and take notes. It's a way for journalist to build relationships too, so they can get the real inside scoop in the future. Building relationships is how you get

invited. You don't build relationships by breaking an agreement or bursting in where your not invited.

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:35 PM

@Conservativeslayer

I'm left handed. I have never used my left hand to eat food in South Asia. I'd use my right hand if it had holes in it and the fingers were paralyzed. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that.

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:37 PM

bernbart

That's a nice looking Martini pitcher.

Pour me a double?

Thanks!

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:41 PM

Retzilian

Al Jarizzi - isn't he a singer?

Yeah, he's really good at scatting and all that other jarrazz type stuff.

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:41 PM

@bernbart

Glenn's opinions are based on facts which he's very careful to substantiate, unlike many others' who pull shit out of thin air and expect everyone to believe them.

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:45 PM

Oh, God

A better way to put it might be... many Online journalist aren't professionals at all, and many do not follow ethics set forth.

bernbart, you simply cannot be serious!

Okay, I'm sure you are.

And I could've copied/pasted the rest of your fantastical scribbling but I thought, gee, why bother?

I'm returning to Planet Earth now where I hope to be welcomed by Homo Sapiens Sapiens who live freely, rather than in some sort of bernbartian asylum.

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:47 PM

Timothy3

Timothy3 ,

what reality am I denying?

Yes I am here giving my opinions. Isn't that what' letters to the editor' is about? Just because you do not agree with my opinions does not mean they are invalid. Glenn is not right about everything, nor is he wrong about everything. Glenn presents his opinions, sometimes I agree, sometime I disagree. Isn't that what a discussion is supposed to be about.

Some people think you should only come and to Glenn's pieces to shower Glenn adoration and always agree with him. That's not a discussion.

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:48 PM

if this threat -

is really going to morph into a 911 truther threat I will join the party and explain to somebody like this conlawyer in ALL gruesome details why a muslim might eats with his right hand!

Thursday, July 9, 2009 01:51 PM

bystander

Good Lord!

He directs us to a display: cans of strawberry, butter pecan and chocolate Ensure next to 4 feet of yellow rubber tubing, which, we are told, is "gently inserted" from nose to stomach. The "delicious flavors" are to entice them to eat, we're told.


"They taste it when they burp," Audi says, smiling.

We ask to see the 12-strap restraint chairs that hold hunger strikers immobile for hours while the Ensure is pumped in.

"Off limits," Audi says.

But rest assured, she says, the feeding is a "social hour" that detainees enjoy.

"In fact," says Smo, "some detainees do it after eating their meals just to be part of the good experience."

I'm thinking "burp" is a euphemism for "vomit". It's all just outrageous.

The "media handler" sounds like something out of N. Korea.

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