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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 12:00 AM

Dan Froomkin hired by The Huffington Post

It is not journalism that is dying -- only the staid, establishment-serving, stenography model of the WashPost.

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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 03:34 PM

Self-pwn3d

Pls disregard the previous feeble attempt at humor resulting in a nonsense phrase predicated upon the WRONG acronym. (GTMA?)

Sheesh. Inore this poster.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 03:47 PM

Presumptuous I

My older laptop has similar issues, and it takes me forever to navigate the site. If I were using Firefox at home, I could shut down the ads and stuff, but I use IE because it's required for NetFlix's InstantView... to which I am addicted.

Bob Geiger doesn't post there as often as he did during the campaigns, but I always found him to be, not just insightful, but actually right in his predictions.

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For anyone interested, here's my list of 19; again, YMMV... The ones where I have not added a note, are IIRC, more general interest, i.e., political enough to spark my interest. A few of them I don't remember why I selected them, and some don't post very often, which is another reason for using the email notification.

Ann Pettifor (writes about finance)

Barbara Ehrenreich (writes about anything to do with social justice)

Bob Cesca

Bob Geiger (knows a lot about politics, e.g., which party is likely to come out ahead in an election and why)

Cenk Uygur

David Fiderer (has many interests, does lots of research and writes well)

Dr. Chris McCoy

Jane Smiley (novelist, and a wonderful mind)

Jeremy Gerard

Jon Robin Baitz (playwright turned screenwriter)

Josh Silver

Kevin Phillips (knows more than most "experts" have forgotten about finance and how money works in real world)

Martin Lewis

Michael Lutin (a very, very entertaining astrologer, who knows how to hit the mark)

RJ Eskow

Stephen Collins (yes, he was the father on 7th heaven, but he's also an excellent actor, and pretty progressive)

Susan Madrak (an extremely progressive Philly blogger; anyone with any extra cash lying around should feel free to donate to her blog... health insurance issues)

Taylor Marsh

Vincent Bugliosi

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 03:49 PM

Can't Wait for Dan on Weymouth blunder

I'm looking forward to Dan's take on Wapo attempting to sell access to its journalists. That should be revealing.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 03:57 PM

Guess I an old reader

I read almost every story, in the NYT newspaper everyday. Most web sites give the 'Readers Digest' version of news stories. Exactly why we quit subscribing to the SF Chronicle. Thy reprint

'edited' versions of NYT stories.

I know find younger readers who set their computer to show them only limited subjects or news of interest. That rather limits ones education on issues.

In my observations the generation under 55 reads less over all.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 04:34 PM

@the old readers

Apparently one positive side effect or reading less is that it gives the under 55 generation more time to practice their writing. I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 05:24 PM

Im glad he got a job and all, but

Come on, the huffington post is far less serious that the washington post, no matter how you slice it. The washpost can at least claim some actual journalism, the huffpost is a glorified gossip rag.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 05:33 PM

@ muntaba: Psssst... down here!

Apparently one positive side effect or reading less is that it gives the under 55 generation more time to practice their writing.
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Shouldn't that be "Apparently one positive side effect of reading less..."?

I ask that in the nicest way possible.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 05:43 PM

@myself

Nelson says "Ha-Ha"

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 05:43 PM

Good for Froomkin and Huffington Post, but...

I rarely, if ever, visit Huffington Post. I just peeked over there and...wow. It looks like the Care Bears chain vomited all over the front page. What a disaster!

LMoE

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 05:44 PM

HuffPo, And it's Discontents

I concur, heartily, with Bystander, T3 and others that the Huffpo site is crap-filled at times, but it's a damn good place to get an admittedly sprawling overview of what the MSM's up to at the moment, often with a surprisingly good news sense. In some way, the very presence of the BS helps show why things I think are important are languishing way out in the weeds.

But despite my aging laptop, which no doubt suffers from the same infirmities as Anonymust's and PI's, I still take deep, cleansing breaths and even deeper tipples while I wait for the dang thing to load, because it does have new stuff up 24/7, and occasionally even the tripe is oddly interesting. (And yes, Pieceofcake, a fabulous picture of Michelle can never be a wholly bad thing...)

I see this, however, as an attempt on Huffpo's part to deepen their coverage of Washington, something no MSM outlets are doing, quite the opposite, so I have high hopes. Five research assistants? That's something in itself.

Now that Froomkin's neatly wiped the WaPoo off his shoe, let's see what he does next. Better than having to see or worse, be seen, at Weymouth's nasty old fishwrapper, any day.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 06:02 PM

nipped in the ombudsmen

Under still-unclear circumstances, which executives refuse to discuss even with their own Ombudsman

It strikes me that it's been a bad month for ombudsmen. They're not really good for much anymore, are they.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 06:05 PM

@ muntaba

We also would have accepted "D'oh!"

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 06:14 PM

Good News. Thank you. I like Froomkin. I'll follow him in the Huffington Post.

I like his work. Keep at it Mr. Froomkin. AND good job to Adriana Huffington for inviting him in.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 06:15 PM

cocktailhag...

I think you have made a sound case for HuffPost being something of a small-d democratic site.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 06:34 PM

Wanted to Offer Up an O/T on Torture

from the WSJ.

Now, I clicked on the link sometime earlier and, so, don't recall who provided it initially (sorry, unknown commenter).

In the mix are phrases like

"'battlefield realities' when weighing whether to admit statements [as to] whether an admission was forced."

Then there's this:

Vice Adm. Bruce MacDonald, the Navy's judge advocate general, testified that the standard should be whether a statement was "reliable," rather than whether it was coerced. He suggested that a coerced statement might be less likely to be reliable but that coercion should be only one factor examined in the "totality of the circumstances."

So, while I won't beat a dead dog (and I won't!), I had to offer this up for perusal.

I truly wish this sort of story had the potential for going viral and, better yet, infecting only those who deserve it.

We might designate this sickness HAI(b)GWB (Horrific Action Initiated by George W Bush).

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 06:50 PM

Blogwhoring...

Here, I am doing it...

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 07:15 PM

Hooray for HuffPo

I can't think of a better place for Froomkin to get situated in. He has long been beyond the moldy crowd he's previously been connected to. Good for him and us.

On a sad note, I clicked on the link to the pathetic offerings of Milbank and Cillizza, currently entertaining the inside crowd at WaPo. (minor note - as Cillizza is a pundit himself, he might want to learn how to pronounce the word - though that is the least of the issues involved with this shameful mess) There are elementary school productions with boatloads of greater production values, let alone witty content.

I won't be sorry to watch this flagship sink.

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