Yeah, it's on my list of things to savor over the first pom-tini of the evening as I've been just too darn busy today. ;-}

"One reason it isn't "the site for me" is because of the (apparent) "audience that they seek" (one interested in the Palin/Michael Jackson sagas, if the organization of their front page is an indicator)".

I never thought either that a site with a 'constitutional lawyer dude' would be MY site - you just

have to take it like overtime in a soccer game and "think of England" (if you know what I mean)

-or of RMP - If you wanna learn something from life you can not only have fun with Michael or Sarah - you have to shake a leg with a lawyer too - from time to time!

All I want (like bernbart) is the opportunity to read a cyber-paper with my coffee (okay, she's never spoken of cyber-paper, but I don't want ink on my fingers, even if she thinks that's an indicator of validity/seriousness/truthiness/authenticity/reliability, and so on and so on).

I don't see it as an indicator of anything, but the ink on my fingers is a small price to pay for getting to absorb information from a non-photon projected source for a little while each day. Increasingly, between work, homework and staying informed, I spend most of my waking life in front of my laptop. I like spreading the paper out on the floor and hovering over it--being able to see the ENTIRE page without scrolling. And knowing it will be there in a few seconds, no matter what happens in some server room a thousand miles away.

I don't think that applies to myself or bystander, but YMMV.

Of course I know you were giving your personal preference and no way does my comment apply to you or bystander. I think we all know who I was referring to and I'm sure that even though the shoe fits, they will continue what they are doing. What does YMMV mean?

this position

I like spreading the paper out on the floor and hovering over it--being able to see the ENTIRE page without scrolling. And knowing it will be there in a few seconds, no matter what happens in some server room a thousand miles away

My father (and I certainly hope you don't take this as a reflection of either your or my ages) was like that. He enjoyed the physical touch of the paper. I don't know; there's probably something to be said for that tactile element (we're products of God-knows how many millions of years, after all).

My point, of course, was that bernbart often argues (and I write this without providing citation--simply from memory) that, somehow, journalistic reliability, as she sees it, is contained only in supposedly-reputable publications, hence the cyber-paper, etc., etc.

Well, I won't bore you any further since I'm confident you take my point.

Newsprint is such a crappy medium, I have learned to do without. (Books, on the other hand, are harder to replace.) What I do miss a bit is flipping through a newspaper, judging the stories both by their headlines and lengths. But this is only possible after the front page since almost everything there is "continued". Overall, I think a good monitor is much better for me.

the trick is to be a fan of Glenn, Michael, Obama, Jon, Andy (Warhol), Tracy (Chapman), Kant, Abba, Arthur (Rubinstein) and the Marx Brothers at the same time - If you can do that Huffpo is a piece of cake!

Perhaps I didn't read thoroughly enough, but is Froomkin actually getting paid? And does Huffington have any means of earning money through her blog? Because you are right. I would be happy to pay for journalism that actually tells me something. (You did issue a call for donations, and I will be sending you one as soon as I have a few extra bucks in my pocket.)

your mileage may vary

http://www.urbandictionary.com/

You can be quite sure that all the young, bright, hipsters at the The Huffington Post are quite familiar with it.

“Bloggers don’t go to jail for their work. They simply aren’t held accountable like real reporters….It could be said the blogosphere is all eyeballs and no insights. In the blogosphere, of course, the mainstream media is always found wanting. It really is time this myth was blown apart. Blogs, and a large number of comment sites, specialise in political extremism and personal vilification. Radical sweeping statements without evidence are common.” --- John Hartigan, the CEO of Rupert Murdoch’s News Limited

Not much to add to that pile of insanity; but Fox will be the challenge to overcome for some time yet to come.

My father (and I certainly hope you don't take this as a reflection of either your or my ages) was like that.

That's okay, in my cohort, advanced age is not as relevant to parentage as it is in others. I came very close to being a grandpa at 38 [but was happy to have dodged the nickname gramps for the time being].

Someone else remarked on the differences of the paper and the electronic version. One very important difference for me, is recognizing the importance that each story was initially given when the paper went to print. I posted a story yesterday about a Pakistani immigrant who died in immigrant detention--the electronic version had it listed in the "New York" section, deep in the paper's inky bowels...it was on the front page of the NYT national edition.

YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary

In general, when a subject line refers specifically to me (and, in this case, bystander), I assume (unless something in it indicates otherwise) that the entire post is directed at me.

I think we all know who I was referring to and I'm sure that even though the shoe fits,

Using your analogy, it appeared to me as if the shoe was being tossed our way. And I prefer parrying to ducking. ;-}