Right-wing or Left-wing, Israel is your whipping boy... When I was a little kid the "right-wing" media treated them like the second coming and since I've become a man, the "leftist" media has called the same people Pariahs... Reminds me of the way people used to talk about the Soviets without having ever been there. It usually took a short visit to that dead, grey state for most of them to see the light.

few of your points are ever even sensical, much less supported by evidence

I notice you spend a lot of time researching and dealing with my nonsensical, unsupported-by-evidence points, omooex.

Have a good evening.

If by saying that you're expressing regret that you make people clean up the elephantine bullshit left behind by your activity here.

Assuming that the Uighurs picked up by our troops in Afghanistan and sent to another resort in Cuba were the equivalent of Chinese Taliban, wouldn't this be a good opportunity to invite the Chinese to join the NATO forces in Afghanistan and help us finish the task?

First off, ETIM was not declared a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department until August 27, 2002, as part of a move to garner Chinese support for Security Council resolutions to go to war against Iraq. Second off, ETIM is not covered by the AUMF, since they neither planned the September 11th attacks nor harbored those who did. Third off, the court found that the participation from the Uighurs at Guantanamo in ETIM activities didn't rise to the level of terrorist training or allegiance or membership of ETIM, and, as you did point out, ETIM has no beef with the United States or vice versa.

BTW, it's a violation of both Geneva and ICCPR to hold people for something they've done which wasn't declared an offense until after they did it. I wonder whose Constitution that one came from?

To really deliver the coup de grace to your argument, the Chinese danced in the streets of Beijing after September 11th. In fact the candlelight vigil in Beijing for those who died on September 11th was organized by a woman there who was ashamed that the dancing had happened.

Thanks for all the details that you provided. I always appreciate an opportunity to learn something new.

However, it doesn’t change most of what I said in my post.

The way Glenn wrote about “sheer hostility towards Muslims,” one might think that this hostility came from the thin air. Such hostility is very sad, but it is not a U.S. fault.

And I never emphasized that ONLY Muslims celebrated 9/11.

Glenn wrote:

“ Rather obviously, the Uighurs were swept into the Enemy category solely by virtue of their status as Muslims.”

What I said was that they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

As to “dancing in the streets” in general, we don’t have to go to China. As we all know, some prominent American professors did much more than that. They, in effect, declared that America deserved 9/11.

I salute you for engaging with Calif Mike. He presents as a peculiar passive-aggressive personality that seeks to mask an inordinate and deep-seated hatred for the other. I'll provide but three examples (and these from today's comments only):

So the cause was an attack on 9/11, and effect was hostility. It is a very unfortunate turn of events, but this is how it happened.

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The way Glenn wrote about "sheer hostility towards Muslims," one might think that this hostility came from the thin air. Such hostility is very sad, but it is not a U.S. fault.

and

As to "dancing in the streets" in general, we don’t have to go to China. As we all know, some prominent American professors did much more than that. They, in effect, declared that America deserved 9/11.

So there you have it: a seemingly sad and morose series of statements reflecting Mike's unhappiness that, gee, it's really an unfortunate series of circumstances that have led us to, well--be forced--to kill (or support the killing) of all these people at various points around the planet.

Oh, yeah, and did I mention that those leftist professors are as equally blameworthy?

(Now, Calif Mike, you'll deny the above but, remember, that's part of being passive-aggressive)

Wondering if CalifMike or his ilk might have a point, I always go back and read Glenn's post again. Usually, I find their arguments don't address the issue that he brought up in the first place. The article doesn't claim the Uighurs are great people, or flawless. What it does is point out the hypocrisy of rags such as NRO. The Muslims in western China should be their natural allies, fighting against communist forces. Instead, we get the opposite. Now, if Mike or others have a complaint against this line of reasoning, by all means, put it forward. But you're barking up the wrong tree at the moment - no one is denying that the Uighurs might have ill intent. But it's the intent of NRO, Malkin, and their crew that's on trial here.

What if the Falun Gong lived in Waco?

What if the Mormons lived in China?

What if we didnt care which line on a map separates where you live from where I live, but we just stopped killing people ourselves, and used that as the example we set for others to follow? Wouldn't that be more of a shining city on a hill than the most armed and dangerous empire the world has yet seen?

What if our humanitarianism was divorced from our militarism?

What if our "peacemakers" were not armed warriors?

What if that was what we were known for, instead of being the most efficient killers on the planet?

What if we actually had some moral credibility in a world already replete with the immoral and the amoral?

What if we weren't so hopelessly tangled in a net of self-serving delusions, lethal contradictions, and murderous mythologies?

What if?

Indeed.

Misogyny, intolerance, and a very real history of lashing out at anyone who has the audacity to criticize any facet of the religion.

It is, simply, a belief system that generates violence.

Here is a quote from T.Jefferson, 200 years ago when Jefferson and John Adams went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

" The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise. "

There is a substantial minority of Muslims who believe that violence is an acceptable response to criticism of Islam.