Thanks, Glenn. I must be learning my lessons well, because the first thing that struck me when I read about those Iranian thugs inducing confessions through torture ("the way they usually do") was, "Well, this is a Pogo moment." Why is identical behavior torture if "they" do it & enhanced or brutal interrogation if "we" do it? I think psychologists call applying one rule to self & a different rule to others sociopathic behavior. So I guess we know now that the journalistic code of the Grey Lady is officially, clinically stark-staring NUTS.

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I'm confused.

The nature of your comment had me wondering if this wasn't something an Israel-First person might write. But, a quick skim through your other letters suggests otherwise.

I can't decide if I need more information than your current comment offers, or less?

By way of an example, especially now, I can have respect for the Iranian people even as I dread, for them, this horror their alleged government has visited on them. I can transfer that respect as an abstraction, if not by actual experience, to the citizens of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Palestine.

Given all that has been made available on the web over the past few weeks, I'm not sure how you hold the view of Muslims and Arabs/Persians, like the Iranians, that you appear to hold.

watch Glenn jump up and down (didn't know that he was blond when he had hair)

watch Glenns dad say:YOU ARE WAISTING YOUR TIME WITH THIS GARBAGE

let's hear Glenn say :EAT IT!

and his mom: YOUR DAD IS GOING TO BE VERY UPSET WHEN HE GETS HOME!

And let the fireworks begin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ-Y6xrkNvg

My guess is that the establishment journalists and even the majority of Americans simply do not believe that anything the U.S. ever does or will do could amount to a human rights abuse of any kind. What I would like to know from these people is under what hypothetical situation could the U.S. commit torture?

In the meantime, we set up secret prisons to avoid the law while countries like Iran at least have pretend with trials and even release the foreign prisoners.

Hi,

I got this from my son. It is a long video about the new world order and how Obama is helping to bring it about. If things on this are true, it could be part of an explanation of why the White House visitor logs are now a secret.

There are so many bad things that have happened to our government and far too many are continuing so it is easy to weave a conspiracy theory. We do know for sure that a small elite is making many major decisions in the USA without public participation.

I would appreciate if some of your outstanding audience would check this out and see if it is right in the claims that international bankers are running the show.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2487281703373472350&hl=en

thanks

Like it or not, there are people (not me) who think what we did to terrorists wasn't torture, or if it was torture, was completely justified. America is a hate-filled country on this July 4. I really can't blame the NYT and NPR for trying to stay above the fray by using less incendiary language to describe our tactics. I've had many conversations with conservative colleagues at work. They don't care what we call it as long as we do it.

Glen's commentary seems oddly detached from this reality. I think he's going after a symptom rather than a root cause. With respect to torture, the Bush administration did exactly what Americans demanded of them.

Conservatives the world over will resort to any tactic to silence their opponents. We are no exception. America's capacity for hypocrisy knows no bounds. Just like everyone else.

Glenn: I read and re-read Blackman's srticle. He is quoting people who charge that they were tortured. He does not say so himself. It is a Rights Group or one of the victims.

I think the NYT knows its vulnerable and its reporters are doing a fancy dance by quoting instead of making their own views known. That is SOP in he said/she said/they allege journalism.

I will respect the NYT's Editorial Policy on this issue when they stop using The Rape of Nanking to denote Japanese atrocities there and conform to something more middle of the road like The Aggressive Fondling of Nanking; or the Japanese history books' label — The Nanking Invasion. 0.43 seconds of Googling proves they don't mind the word Rape.

Glenn: I read and re-read Blackman's srticle. He is quoting people who charge that they were tortured. He does not say so himself. It is a Rights Group or one of the victims.

No.

First, look at the episode the Public Editor described where Doug Jehl edited out the word torture -- it wasn't even an instance of the NYT reporter himself using the term, only attributing the term to others: "Shane wrote that methods used in the prisons were 'widely denounced as illegal torture.' Jehl changed that to the 'harshest interrogation methods' since the Sept. 11 attacks."

So even if you're right, and you're not, it would still be a glaring double standard.

Second, the NYT isn't just quoting human rights groups as alleging torture. The NYT itself is describing as torture the tactics which those groups report Iran is using: "The government has made it a practice to publicize confessions from political prisoners held without charge or legal representation, often subjected to pressure tactics like sleep deprivation, solitary confinement and torture, according to human rights groups and former political prisoners."

That's not a quote -- they're not quoting those groups. They're saying that those groups report that Iran is using certain tactics. What are those tactics? Torture.

You asked: 'I would appreciate if some of your outstanding audience would check this out and see if it is right in the claims that international bankers are running the show".

As a member of Glenns outstanding audience I can tell you IT IS NOT RIGHT!

You have to look BEHIND the Bankers and the Bilderberg Group to see who really pulls the strings -

Its me:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi65lZTm400