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Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:00 AM

The still-growing NPR "torture" controversy

The media outlet's use of Bush euphemisms sparks a much-needed debate on journalistic standards.

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Friday, July 3, 2009 04:11 PM

My dear heru-ur,

You gotta problem with Cynthia McKinney?

Too Black? Too Strong? Too Real?

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:11 PM

@Timothy3

I've read your comment several times but I'm just not getting it. Are you saying I'm being played for a fool by The Nation article? By citing Chatam House (as does the article) and your statement "just in time for the EU to break relations with the same," do you mean that this is some sort of orchestration that should be obvious to us all?

It's Friday, you know, and the day before a holiday, so maybe I'm just experiencing holiday-denseness, but I'd like to know what I'm missing here.

That it is, and it's the official day off here, too.

Sorry for being cryptic, I was on my way out. From just after the election, there's been a crowd who felt that it was a near surety that Ahmedinejad really won the election, there was no rigged vote, and the protesters were instigated by outsiders, preferably the CIA (not all takers believed all of that ball of wax). In fact, when one said that one should back the protesters because they were vulnerable, and besides that all that was needed to legitimize the protests was the perception of a bad election, not necessarily that their side won, one got flack. From some, the flack was that I was allying myself with the neocons, wanted war in Iran, was terminally into interfering, and besides it was obvious that because of Mossadegh, etc. etc., that it was the CIA, $400 million and all that.

At one point, I was told that I could "cling to that thought if I liked", because I said that a poll taken 3 weeks out from an election did not have to jibe with the election results if there had been a sea change in the electoral landscape.

Well, the Chatham House came out saying, in effect, just that, and also that the vast rural majority for Ahmedinejad was a fiction. In the interim, twitters from within the country indicated that rather than being an elite power struggle, there was actually something of a military takeover in progress.

So all that explains the comment I made, which was, in the short version, Yeah, lookee there, The Nation thinks [all the things I had tried to point out over a couple of weeks time]. Since I had been either insinuated or accused of lining up with neocons for those points of view, it follows that The Nation is a neocon rag.

I wasn't criticizing you or saying you thought anything in particular, just chuckling at the idea that The Nation had been in on the vast CIA/neocon conspiracy, it being such a right wing rag. BTW the person saying I could 'cling to that thought' was Glenn, so I'm feeling a little vindicated that this math guy still knows a bit about survey construction even though I suck at statistics.

Happy Independence Day.

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:12 PM

US Drone Strike Kills at Least 17 in South Waziristan

US drones launched an attack on sites in South Waziristan today, killing at least 17 and injuring some 27 others according to intelligence officials. The strike came as US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was visiting Pakistani officials in Islamabad. --antiwar.com

Hmmm. I wonder if the dead and maimed are glad that the humanitarian USA military is "helping" them out.

I also wonder if the world as a whole as noticed that Afghanistan is on the other side of the fricken planet from the USA. Must give other countries something to think about, living with a rogue(*) country of the power of the USA on the rampage.

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(*) In many ways, a "rouge" country would suit the sentence better but the humor would no doubt raise howls of protest that some anti-cosmetic aggenda was at hand.

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:13 PM

Right On!

Glenn,

You're absolutely right. Way to go and keep hittin' em!

Dave.

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:13 PM

and wasn't the last one a beauty? -

and didn't I tell y'all all before there is only ONE 'complex' who rules this country and the world - and that's the 'entertainment complex' and somebody should tell herus wife - she has it all backwards - just like her hubby: -

A much more realistic novel could be written where the plot was that the government staged a war to keep the public's mind off the death of a celebrity at that time!

And you should now all go back to my first post and watch and then read the next letter - and watch and read the next letter and watch... it's a work of art and my present to y'all!

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:15 PM

-- omooex

We all know you are a crazy blockhead, but you have really been on a warpath to prove it the last day or so. You are like the court jester of old; only not funny.

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:17 PM

Heru

That must have felt good after a whole day of being completely ignored. Don't forget to put that sock all the way at the bottom of the hamper.

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:18 PM

You gotta problem with Cynthia McKinney? Too Black? Too Strong? Too Real? -- something stinks

No, why?

I would not vote for a green party candidate, but that is universal. Her actions in Palestine are the stuff of real heroes.

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:18 PM

something stinks

Ooh you have just reminded me of something exiting that happened the other day. First off blacks here do get picked on. If you are black in a smart motor you can get more pulls being guilty of the charge of "being black whilst driving."
But guess what? This ordinary but decent car came around the corner the other day when I was in the Brixton a very black part of town. The car was ideal, for the terrain small but fast. The right weapon for the job. And guess who was driving it? Only Samuel L Jackson wasn't it?

What a cool dude. He knew that if you want to slum around South London you dress down and don't come the limo thing. Attracts the wrong attention and makes you look like a cheap pratt.
Fair made my day that did.

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:21 PM

bathroom humor! omooex the pervert ...

Boy, you sure are a slimy little middle-school blockhead. But you are funny as you wiggle --- careful, the cool kids are watching you!

Friday, July 3, 2009 04:22 PM

My dear heru-ur,

Got that right!

Maybe she can snag the democratic nomination next time.

By then, who else would want the job?

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