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Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:00 AM

The still-growing NPR "torture" controversy

The media outlet's use of Bush euphemisms sparks a much-needed debate on journalistic standards.

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Friday, July 3, 2009 03:04 PM

Omooex

>>>This is the tiniest viola in the world playing for the world's oppressed white minority.

As a white male Jew, and hence a member of three oppressed minority groups, I demand three violas.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:10 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zpTQCQEFhg&NR=1

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:17 PM

Gator90

Well, by gum, three violas you'll get sir! This is America, after all, wot!

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:31 PM

Jebbie

Do I see the word "An" as the first word in your first paragraph? Is there some reason for that other than you are attempting to justify your idiocy using verbal slight of hand?

We're talking acout a specific Obama, Sport, not "an" Obama.

Yes you do see an "an" and it is grammatically correct. And don't mention gravity because I understand it as you totally don't. So here is a literal reality check for you

Reality Belief.

Luo genes are to American nationality
As Newton is to Bush

And reality Jebbie ALWAYS trumps Belief.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:33 PM

Jebbie

Do I see the word "An" as the first word in your first paragraph? Is there some reason for that other than you are attempting to justify your idiocy using verbal slight of hand?

Describe this mysterious "sleight" of hand that you see.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:35 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9DDTiPzJCk&feature=related

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:40 PM

Jebbie

Well, I gotta tell ya, sport, I have some real good friends from Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) who are as white as fresh snow and if you were to say they are the same race as, let's say, Robert Mugabe they would think you were crazy (just as I do).

But I wouldn't say that would I thickie? How many times do I have to tell you the difference between "Nationality" & "Race".

The whites and blacks of Zimbabwe share the same NATIONALITY but have different RACIAL genes.

Now that's my last with you. You are a fighty little shit who is all fight but no brains.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:40 PM

@LL

Luo genes are to American nationality

As Newton is to Bush

They have nothing to do with each other? Genes and nationality? Also, tribal affiliation isn't "genetic..."

Anyway, I know I'm striding into the middle of this... even scrolled back a few pages to try and figure it out, but it's a blur.

I wonder if you could sum up your point in a short declarative sentence? "Obama isn't American," or something like that?

Thanks in advance.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:44 PM

Jebbie and the Huts

Here we are, looking at the speckled egg crowd go into name-calling most of the afternoon. Why? Because the USA killing machine is brutalizing Afghanistan again in a very large way as I write this.

These sorts of dust-ups happen just as needed. My wife said today that a good novel could be written where the plot was that the government staged the death of a celebrity to keep the public's mind off of whatever war was going on at that time.

I am beginning to believe that the regulars here would much rather fight than discuss the latest crimes of the Empire. Could it be?

Anyway, Jebbie if far better than most here: he loves a good war.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:47 PM

PDA

Goes something like this:

LondonLad: blah, blah, blah...Obama the African

Everyone Else: Well, that sounds, to be charitable, a rather dumb statement. Could be taken to sound racist too.

LondLad: Its not like I'm RACIST, I'm just racist; and its just to piss off white people who aren't racist.

Everyone Else: Oh...[stepping lightly backwards towards door]

Here's a video re-enactment of the whole sordid affair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Qu3iP3RYA

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:51 PM

My dear Jebbie,

You are not seeing it because it is the culture YOU were brought up in and not the culture that LondonLAd was brought up in. We had institutionalized and media promoted racism and segregation and that still influences how people act and behave HERE.

That is not part of England or the rest of the world where black people don't have to worry about DWB, cops or people assuming that they are criminals and in America black people have to know how to tread on eggshells when they are dealing with a potentially ignorant racist MF and this creates a schism and duality in our culture which most of us do not care to think about or understand but it underlies how people deal with each other.

They do not have that culture. You know that a black person raised in England has an ENGLISH accent, no matter how dark their skin or how "African" their features are, they are Brits, just like all the other Brits.

The problem is ours, not theirs.

You are projecting.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:53 PM

I wonder if you could sum up your point in a short declarative sentence? "Obama isn't American," or something like that? Thanks in advance. -- Paul Daniel Ash

Boy, you sure aggressively misread it this time. Congratulations; do you do propaganda for a living, or just a hobby?

I believe the idea of L.L. was that Obama is an American which is a political thing.(*) Then he went on to point out that he was also decended from African stock.(**)

Now the Hut on the other hand, claims that to be American is a racial thing and that to label anyone as African descended is an insult. One hopes he says that to a very large black fellow some day.


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(*) Besides being a political thing, many have pointed out over the last very threads that right now it is a shameful thing to be an American. Glenn's posts bring out that sort of thing in people here.

(**) This would be why omooex voted for him.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:56 PM

The problem is ours, not theirs. You are projecting. -- something stinks

Many world problems are ours; and there is a whole lot of projecting goes on here in UT. Some might say that is the entertainment value of the place.

By the way, good comment there.

Friday, July 3, 2009 03:57 PM

omooex

Last time smart arse. Obama is more African than he is American that is a fact of the physical world. He has luo genes that originate in Africa. Now unless his mum has any what you call Native American genes in her he will have no genes in him that originate in America. Apart from them there is otherwise no such thing as American genes. And genes are thicker than nationality as blood is thicker than water. So therefore Obama is more African than he is American. America always was just a dream just an idea, not a race. France & the French are both a dream an idea AND a race. But you lot are just not up to that speed.

Now piss off I'm bored.

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