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Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:00 AM

The still-growing NPR "torture" controversy

The media outlet's use of Bush euphemisms sparks a much-needed debate on journalistic standards.

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Friday, July 3, 2009 12:34 PM

-- Chris Sinnard

that's right Jebbie

ignore when UT's resident not-Xist acts Xist. Par for the course around here

Although I am not sure who you are referring to with the descriptor "resident not-Xist", perhaps you should take a peek at last nights little dustup over some comments omooex made about Helen Thomas which several folks, myself included, took as sexist.

I don't see myself as ignoring anyone regarding sexist or racist remarks.

Then again, perhaps you just needed an outlet to post more of your tiresome, O/T and insane wheeze and your real point has nothing to do with what I or anyone else said, but rather the fact it's about who I said it to. Isn't that more accurate?

You need help Sinnard. I've posted a resource for that help at my sig. Maybe if you ask nicely, you can arrange a group discount for all four of you (five if you count Bucky1 and heru-ur seperately).

Friday, July 3, 2009 12:36 PM

- omooex

I am old and recognize the fact that younger people really have little use for old people.

I also recognize that that is the way of life but can't accept it. Again, I wasn't thinking, just reacting to Pedinska's very good post because I was so supportive of what she said.

We're all subject to being unfairly criticized.

And lastly, and I''ll probably get into trouble again, but I feel that the Arabs I have met over the years were some on the nicest, friendliest, and most peaceful people I have ever met, by far. It annoys me enormously when the various pundits equate Arabs to terrorists. I have never felt safer than when I lived in, say for example, Jeddah, because as far I could see crime didn't exist.

I was in Tehran in the late 70's when the Shah was being overthrown and I can't same the same thing about the Persians. They are one tough bunch of people who won't avoid a challenge. My opinion only. Can't prove it!

Friday, July 3, 2009 12:37 PM

US Lawmakers call for support for terrorists

Old news, to an extent, inasmuch as there has been back-room support for this particular terrorist group under Bush, but this explicit and public call to support this terrorist group gives lie to the "war" on "terror", at least as far as these particular legislators go.

Isn't this a call to give comfort to the enemy? FOX should be all over these traitors' arses...

http://tinyurl.com/m5la9r

Friday, July 3, 2009 12:38 PM

jebbie, londonlad

This kerfuffle reminds me of Dave Chappelle on why he quit his successful show, saying that he could no longer condone his role in making racism "funny" for white people. Since Chapelle was saying n***** and calling women bitches and hos, certainly some white people felt like it would not only be ok, but funny to also do so. I can totally understand his revulsion in that--in wanting to do comedy and social commentary that involved his race and social attitudes towards race, and having that completely erased by the attitudes and reactions of the white audience. I have to say that Chappelle had a very sophisticated view on race that was actually thought provoking as well as hilarious.

One of his earliest skits, where he takes the role of a white man, black man and Korean man in a duel of racism is nothing short of brilliant, and another in which he does all the roles in a racist committee meeting to figure out what offensive word to use on black people after slavery is just amazing. But he is only remembered for his "I'm Rick James" skits or any time he said the word n*******.

In the same way, I think some people use their criticism toward Obama to express subterranean antagonism towards black people--or even, perhaps some antagonism towards the idea that there is a social penalty for saying whatever you want about race, no matter if it is offensive to some. I saw this happen to Hillary Clinton as well--I actually hate her as much as I hate Bill Clinton--which is to say a lot. But the antagonism people filtered through her toward women was unbelievable. People seem eager to find a free pass for misogyny, racism, homophobia [or even ageism]. That doesn't take away any of the real reasons to dislike Obama's administration--but it does make some of us not really want to participate in such conversations or even defend him.

Anyway, good luck trying to talk about race here. The dueling banjos will turn this whole board into one big turd.

Friday, July 3, 2009 12:38 PM

ondelette

I've read your comment several times but I'm just not getting it. Are you saying I'm being played for a fool by The Nation article? By citing Chatam House (as does the article) and your statement "just in time for the EU to break relations with the same," do you mean that this is some sort of orchestration that should be obvious to us all?

It's Friday, you know, and the day before a holiday, so maybe I'm just experiencing holiday-denseness, but I'd like to know what I'm missing here.

Friday, July 3, 2009 12:49 PM

-- something stinks

African is not a racist term and Brits are not prone to the same racism styles we have here.

In the context the asshole used it, it most certainly is racist.

Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what the Brits are prone to or not prone to and I don't agree that their racists are any different than our run of the mill cracker because they aren't.

I fail to see any difference between British racists and American racists and even if there were differences, I still wouldn't cut them any slack on this. If he wants to go that route, let him post his shit at Stormfront along with Steel the First.

Friday, July 3, 2009 12:57 PM

AT&T: Proud Sponsor of the 2008 Democratic Convention

Cybersecurity Plan to Involve NSA, Telecoms
DHS Officials Debating The Privacy Implications
By Ellen Nakashima - July 3, 2009 [link@sig]

The Obama administration will proceed with a Bush-era plan to use National Security Agency assistance in screening government computer traffic on private-sector networks, with AT&T as the likely test site, according to three current and former government officials.
Friday, July 3, 2009 01:17 PM

omooex

In the same way, I think some people use their criticism toward Obama to express subterranean antagonism towards black people--or even, perhaps some antagonism towards the idea that there is a social penalty for saying whatever you want about race, no matter if it is offensive to some.

I've got no antagonism towards blacks. I'm being antagonistic towards certain pious twat whiteys just have fun watching them fall for what they think is racism but isn't. You see no British white people had black slaves like so many white Americans did. None of the Blacks that live in Britain were brought here against their will. They all wanted to come. We also all know where the black people come from and so do they. Whether particular countries in Africa or the West Indies.The difference is often as clear as between French Germans and say Norwegians. To you American whites the American blacks might all seem the same because they lost their identity when sold into slavery and have co mingled over the passed two hundred years into probably a new ethnic group called African Americans. But Obama isn't part of that group he comes direct to America from Africa. So once again calling him Barry the African is NOT racist. And neither am I.

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