You stated that it was a fact that the test was put through a validation process. I pointed out that you were wrong.

You have my sympathy, but the matter is now irrelevant. Scotus has validated the test. Is there a higher validation body in the US?

This situation just shows how warped and lousy this country has become. These firemen worked hard, studied and took extra courses, and should have been promoted, but instead let's give the promotion to the more unqualified person. A white person has to go all the way to the Supreme Ct just to be treated like another human being. It's unbelievable. -- genseric

I don't see Glenn arguing that there was no merit in Ricci's case. What he is (repeatedly) arguing is that those distorting the matter in the news and in the propaganda venues are using sentimentality in their vendetta against Sotomayor -- and then sneering at the "sentimentality" of affirmative action supporters in the same breath.

There are worthwhile arguments to made regarding unfairness in the New Haven decision. But neither you nor any of the other bleaters have been making those arguments. Rather you wail about how WRONGGGGGG it all is, like a bunch of teenagers decrying their parents' curfew edicts.

I've spent the past ~15 years working in a man's business -- minerals exploration. I am very much a second class citizen within the business by virtue of my gender, size and the ties of motherhood. So...... I've just made a tentative arrangement to start prospecting with another female (on account of the fact that neither one of us is employed for money right now so we might as well employ ourselves in our own interests.) I'll be working this summer, for the hope of future returns. Like private-sector entrepreneurs have done for generations.

I cannot stand to read all this pansy-assed wailing based on anyone's sense of entitlement to taxpayer-funded jobs.

Put on your big boy pants already and get off the dole.

@ Stibber

From what I have read, the administered test was certified, unbiased and used routinely for promotions.

Where are you reading that? Because, according to the facts of the case which were not disputed, this exam was not only not certified, but not ever put through any validation study.

But George Will said that:

“The tests were prepared by a firm specializing in employment exams and were validated, as federal law requires, by independent experts.”

George Will wouldn’t get his facts wrong, would he?

George Will wouldn’t get his facts wrong, would he?

Anyone who believes that Babe Ruth was the greatest hitter of all time has a hard time with the truth.

Everyone knows that Tourvald Hagestedt, designated hitter for the Oslo Owls is the greatest hitter of all time.

Will is wrong.

Link at sig

I said banks, not stores. But thanks for playing.

Though I find you disgusting and stupid, I would like to thank you for providing the following interaction:

Unlovely Truth: Five white men really are wiser than one Latina.

Who knew?

Jebbie: Apparently Justice Thomas didn't.

Moron.

This attitude towards government service is unfortunate.

This attitude towards government service is unfortunate.

The statement did not refer to government service. It referred to the idea that someone (anyone) is entitled to be employed by the government.

Probably the most disturbing thing about this thread is that in addition to the usual and familiar "white makes right" set we've come to expect, like a creepy uncle at Christmas, there has also been an infestation of fresh mouthpieces, who are more literate and clever than their neanderthal views would suggest.

The RWNM has grabbed onto this racist thing in a big way, by their usual method, which is covering up what you're doing by accusing others of it.

It's worked before, and it's glaringly obvious that they think it will work again.

Funny... The party which sells every policy from wars to the tax code, based on f*cking over the brown, successfully, runs around calling people racist. They've got a big something, anyway, where the balls should go.

And they also have a lot of elves in the workshop, as we can plainly see today.

On the now closed thread about the executive order to detain without charges, omooex posted a fantastic comment to end the thread. In the last two paragraphs, he points out the absolute essence of what people in or from the developing world have frequently told me they bluntly call racism:

The other version of events is based on a disturbing notion that Iranians are automatons incapable of rejecting their unjust government without ample US management and funding. It is based on the idea of a completely supreme US intelligence apparatus which not only can see the future and around corners, but can supercede political paradigms in the White House to perfectly manipulate states. And it is clearly and by design based on a deliberate rejection of all the research, study and analysis that scholars and analysts have devoted to the very complicated political structure of Iran.

Indeed, it is based on a clear rejection of the very idea that Iran could have a political fabric independent of US actions, and that it might have its own intrigues, own interested actors and own manipulations. Thus it has to be based on pure supposition, because any actual examination of the facts leads one further and further away from such ideas.

The whole comment is well worth reading,

http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/27/preventive_detention/permalink/cf439258047d3850bf1013e5727e31d8.html

But the above treatment of people there, by people here, was one of the original reasons for the formation of the Non-Aligned Movement, and is one of the most frustrating and hated attitudes of the West by those who don't inhabit it. So I thought I would call attention to it on a thread that has spent most of its time debating racism.

Bmaz has a pretty good post up related to Glenn's post Sat. re: preventive detention, the rule of law, and the severity of the situation the country faces.

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/29/on-the-rule-of-law-and-crimes-of-torture/