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Monday, June 29, 2009 12:00 AM

The Supreme Court's Ricci decision

Four Supreme Court Justices agree with Sotomayor, including the one she is to replace.

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Monday, June 29, 2009 05:49 PM

As it turns out

Five white men really are wiser than one Latina.

Who knew?

Monday, June 29, 2009 05:50 PM

bernbart

Credit where it's due. You meant Little Brother. T'was he that recommended the typing test practice. That's okay. Maybe we sound alike, although, unlike me, he knows the difference between alliteration and onomatopoeia.

As far as typing classes go, I share your handicap. The choice was a fourth year of French, or typing classes. I chose French. That choice got me out of required foreign language credits in college but, in retrospect, I would have been better off with a solid command of Qwerty.

Monday, June 29, 2009 05:58 PM

@ stibber

As I mentioned before, feel free to call the company that created the test and they can go over it with you. Their phone number is on their website www.iosolutions.org.

I don't have to. This is a logical fallacy being employed by you. You stated that it was a fact that the test was put through a validation process. I pointed out that you were wrong. If you'd read the cases, you'd know this. So, now I'm inclined to believe that you are the new example of the right-wing tool who pretends to be frinedly while spreading dishonesty. The fact is, it is up to you to prove the validity of your claim after I very thoroughly proved you wrong. Furthermore, even a casual read of Ginsburg's dissent would inform you on how the ruling of the majority is wrong as well. Perhaps you need to try another angle? :)

Monday, June 29, 2009 05:59 PM

Something Steele this way comes

DCLaw1:

If any attempt to ameliorate and correct (as opposed to ignore) a prior racial injustice is itself racial injustice, what exactly is racial justice?

I won't hold my breath for a coherent answer.

Then why don’t you ask a coherent question?

I never implied, or asserted, that “any attempt to ameliorate and correct (as opposed to ignore) a prior racial injustice is itself racial injustice.” If you are in fact saying that those who design and support affirmative action do not have the mental capacity or imagination to come up with ameliorations or corrections to racial injustice without creating more racial injustice, then we have a starting point.



Omooex Rex:

Something Stinks and Steele

You seem to follow from the assumption that Affirmative Action type policies are punitive, when they are not; and that they seek to benefit certain elements of society, when that is the opposite of their purpose. Societies where diverse segments of the population participate equally are inherently more stable than those that don't--that seems to go without saying. Leave one group nursing wounds for a few generations--say by excluding them socially and politically--and they will be exactly the group that threatens the state in later times. This is basic conflict resolution.

It is not about what they seek and what their purpose is, but what their effect is: Effect cannot be ignored, no matter what the intention is.



PDA (If I may):

”What some here are trying to say is that racial injustice should not be remedied by practicing racial injustice.”

That sounds very high minded. So then what should be done? Nothing?

You need to offer something to convince me that a solution that avoids even the possibility of the slightest negative repercussions for members of the majority race, while ensuring that minorities will continue to suffer them, is not racist on its face.

It not only sounds high-minded – it IS high minded! I was totally high when I wrote it!

I can’t convince you of what you ask, because I do not believe that it exists. And it is not what I am proposing, anyway. Life has negative repercussions, life is not fair. There will always be people hired and fired for non-job-related issues. You can’t escape it. What you can escape is fucking people over, after having them jump through all the hoops that you asked them to jump through, because you discovered, after the fact, that your system is screwed up.

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Rocky (Ricci): Yo, don't I got some rights?

Boxing Commissioner (City Commisioner): What rights do you think you're referring to?

Ricci: Rights, like in that official piece of paper they wrote down the street there?

City Commissioner: That's the Bill of Rights.

Ricci: Yeah, yeah. Bill of Rights. Don't it say something about going after what makes you happy?

City Commissioner: No, that's the pursuit of happiness. But what's your point?

Ricci: My point is, I'm pursuing something and nobody looks too happy about it.

City Commissioner: But... we're just looking out for your interests.

Ricci: I appreciate that, but maybe you're looking out for your interests just a little bit more. I mean you shouldn't be asking people to come down here and pay the freight on something they paid, it still ain't good enough, I mean you think that's right? I mean maybe you're doing your job but why you gotta stop me from doing mine? Cause if you're willing to go through all the battling you got to go through to get where you want to get, who's got the right to stop you? I mean maybe some of you guys got something you never finished, something you really want to do, something you never said to someone, something... and you're told no, even after you paid your dues? Who's got the right to tell you that, who? Nobody! It's your right to listen to your gut, it ain't nobody's right to say no after you earned the right to be where you want to be and do what you want to do!... You know, the older I get the more things I gotta leave behind, that's life. The only thing I'm asking you guys to leave on the table... is what's right.

And SCOTUS did.

Monday, June 29, 2009 05:59 PM

On & On & On & On -- Slap that Mosquito Already!!

Jaysus in a brown paper bag. You read dumb shit like this: "(*) I have been "talking" to folks via computer since before the Internet was widely available. Your personal insults are not very effective. No personal insults are really --- it is fun sometimes, but often offends the lurkers." And that's just the freaking least of it.

Pity the poor non-lurkers. Like a freakin' toothache, but at least that can be fixed. Irr-i-fucking-tating. We get it, already. Yeah, right back then when big ol' Al Gore invented the internet, you were already a fucking asshat, and by the number of posts since then and now, you reallllly do have too much time on your hands. Like I said, we get it ALREADY. Jaysus, Heru-ur walks into a Pub and the place turns into a fucking Whine-bar.

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