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Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:00 AM

The Washington Post fires its best columnist. Why?

One of the rarest media commodities -- someone who criticizes Democrats "from the Left" -- just got rarer still.

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 07:18 PM

Goedel:

In the process of lamenting Glenn's crime of careless language, you seem to have written "queery" instead of "query." Oh dear.

Thursday, June 18, 2009 07:18 PM

Their

I thought he was referring to Froomkin, in the singular, myself.

Thursday, June 18, 2009 07:12 PM

Why can't the Americans teach their children how to write?

Paraphrasing Prof Higgins plaintive queery, I wonder why Glenn Greenwald is so careless with the language from which he makes his living? For example -

"One of the rarest commodities in the establishment media is someone who was a vehement critic of George Bush and who now, applying THEIR principles consistently, has become a regular critic of Barack Obama -- " (capitalization added)

Surely Glenn does not mean "media" to be the aposition to "their", though "media" is the only plural noun in view! From the sense of his remarks, he must mean "someone", a singular noun.

"Their" has become greatly misused because of the gender problem in our uninflected language. A gender neutral, singular noun is often combined with the possessive adjective "their" or the pronoun "they" in order to avoid use of "his" or "him" when to reference could be to a woman or a girl. Far better to get the gender wrong, I think, than the number. We may be excused for now knowing the gender - especially in these days of gender equality (in the ideal!) - but not to know how to count at a mature age is, I think, inexcusable.

Thursday, June 18, 2009 07:09 PM

when declining, hire the people that accelerate the collapse

this point was made by Morris Berman in his 2006 book "Dark Ages America: The Final Stages of Empire." He was talking about the US empire and the reign of the neo cons. But it fits well here.

Like many others, no reason for me to look at WAPO. A couple of years ago I stopped looking at the LA times every day and only look at it a few times a year.

Maybe the papers have a tracer on who reads them and they want to eliminate people like us anyway.

Thursday, June 18, 2009 06:59 PM

FAIL

I am unable to pray ( I lack the Jesus gene) so I will do the next best thing.

I plan to visualize the printed epitaph of the Washington Post every day until it dies.

Can you see it?

Thursday, June 18, 2009 06:56 PM

Froomkin

I live in DC and I'm a home delivery subscriber to the WaPo. I clearly recall both Krauthammers morally bereft defense of torture in a recent column and Froomkins response, which I was relieved to see published. I just sent a letter of protest to the ombudsman about Froomkins' firing.

Thursday, June 18, 2009 06:56 PM

kathriven:

Your post on Beck beautifully sums up the gaslighting of America. The most decrepid morals parade as status quo wisdom and the wrenched out voice of the individual is held up as absurdist lunacy. It becomes more and more like that Yeats poem.

Thank you, and we are very much agreed. I hope it's not just the accumulation of waxy cynicism in my ears, but this steady accumulation of national stumbles, failures, myths, and betrayals has inflicted upon me a weary view of the world of late. On the individual level, I so often see light, gentleness, fairness, and humanity. On the level of groups, communities, and nations, however, I too often see only the wrenching torrents of mass delusion, emotional brushfire, tribal acrimony, and willful blindness.

The herd breeds a viral devilishness in its collective heat, a hungry virus in the moisture of its many voices. So many subordinate their judgment to the hive mind, the perception of safety in acceptance and, perhaps most importantly, the animal thrill of ritually despising and tearing apart a rival. There may also be a certain tragedy of numbers, a cruelly cold mathematics of survival - that with so many eyes fixed upon the same, ephemeral prizes, justice itself starves upon the meager bones left behind by the dominant few, and from somewhere deep in the ancient warrens and riddles of our DNA comes a forboding voice that relentlessly utters the folk legend of the ravages brought by alienation from this merciless, punishing, vampiric, beloved fiefdom.

Thursday, June 18, 2009 06:52 PM

Crazies

@DCLaw1

I have lately become addicted to Glenn Beck.

OK, now we have proof you're insane...

@Martin Gifford

When people read web articles, they are often in a hurry and they don't want to do too much thinking or deciphering.

Glenn left Joe Klein behind years ago; I think we're good.

@ Little Brother

I understand that Twitter is designed to give the straight skinny in 25 words or less

Sure, but if you want Glenn without the sarcasm, I certainly wouldn't recommend following him on Twitter!

Thursday, June 18, 2009 06:47 PM

Looking at that list of 10 'most popular' columns

from fishbowl DC I look at the names and columns and I think most were likely on top of the hit count because they were so unpopular people came in droves to complain.

Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol are 1 and 3 on the list (IIRC, from a glance) and I hate to say it but I'm pretty sure I was one of the furious hits who made them more "popular" than Froomkin's best. More unpopular more like.No doubt the same thing is true for Froomkin's biggest days too, massive angry response from either side will push up the numbers.

So Kristol draws cheap heat where Froomkin draws people seeking a way to inform themselves, far the harder route, and both succeed. I understand why Kristol has a major print job despite being unreadable. But by what business model does Froomkin, labeled an opinion blogger, get fired? Is the official story "he hurt Kraut's feelings?"

Thursday, June 18, 2009 06:33 PM

That's It For the WaPo

Dan Froomkin was the only reason to go to the Washington Post site. If they've really let him go, they're going to start seeing a significant drop in online readership. They don't have anything else to offer.

On the other hand, wherever Mr. Froomkin finds his next gig will be assured of inheriting his loyal following of regular readers.

People looking for a little truth and insight will be sticking with Froomkin and dumping the now-featureless wasteland of the Washington Post's "cavalcade of witless neocons". WaPo has nothing of value to offer, so they'll probably be closing up shop in a few weeks. Good riddance!

Thursday, June 18, 2009 06:30 PM

Froomkin Firing Confirms that WAPO Has Become Foz News Lite

Like a great many of your commentaters. the only political commentary I still read on the Washington Post was Dan Froomkin. Krauthammer and those other neo-Nazis, excuse me, Neo-Cons, sometimes it really is just so hard to tell the difference, like snails, you know? It is really sad to see the newspaper that Kitty Graham made famous has sunk so low as to become Fox News lite - at least Fixed News has the balls not to pretend to be anything other than what they are. Thanks for the updates, Glenn!

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