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Monday, May 18, 2009 12:00 AM

The myth of the parasitical bloggers

Establishment media outlets claim that others steal their work for free, but the truth is often the opposite.

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Monday, May 18, 2009 06:18 AM

This isn't MoDo's first screw up ...

remember last year ... the night of the New Hampshire primaries ... she "wrote" a story bylined Derry, NH ... about the Hillary Clinton victory party that night ... yet it turns out .. she was in Jerusalem(Yes, Israel) at the time ... so as it turned out .. someone else was ghost writing her column for her ... I bet that's not the only time ... though it has been the only time she was caught .. I wonder if this might have been the case yesterday as well .. it doesn't change the fact that she's a dirt ball though

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:23 AM

More like symbiosis

Good blog post Glenn. I do a blog with fairly high readership, wildsnow.com, and notice that frequently journalists use us as a source for ideas and information, without attribution. I'm always amused by that. But don't get too bothered since I'm doing ok and they're all whining and frequently shutting down.

On the other hand, hardly a day goes by that I don't read other websites and newspapers, then blog about what I read or use information gleaned from such research. Sometimes I attribute by linking to the source, when it's just backstory I usually don't.

In the balance, I link out more to news sources than those sources link back to me, so in that sense they are arrogant and parasitic. But it's a two way street.

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:28 AM

littleboulder

More like symbiosis

Yeah - symbiotic is a better term than synergistic for this.

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:35 AM

change of reading habits

I used to check the LA Times site every day. It has been over a year, maybe 2 since I looked at it. I only go to the WA Post to get Froomkin's weekly posts, but occasionally will stop and look at the rest of the paper.

By contrast, I spend most of my time on DailyKos. If there is something important in the traditional media, they will catch it. I check TPM often and of course, Glenn's column is checked to see if he has a new gem posted.

Reading Glenn over the years, and his latest book "The Great Hypocrites" has made me aware of how far the press has fallen.

I also find more time for the NY Review of books and the Sunday NY Times. I do look at the NY Times site every day.

And the first thing in the morning I read Juan Cole's blog.

And I used to look at the Chicago Tribune, but no longer do.

One could run Air America or the liberal MSNBC news shows from the scoops from the blogs.

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:37 AM

Glenn is right.

What I've seen happen again and again is that the corporate media rips off the context in which bloggers place a story.

Bloggers will take a mainstream story and contrast it with something the original author missed. That's when the rest of the media (most often, cable news talk shows) lifts the story and acts as if they thought of it themselves. It happens far too often to count.

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:38 AM

GG on the fringe

Glenn, I'm "hypothesizing" here, but I'd wager you personally are much more laissez faire (sp?) as regards whether or not your stuff is properly attributed to (sorry, can't even begin to diagram that) than many of your peers.

Lemme try again. You care more about the info getting out there, being read, having an impact, to a much greater degree than many. There's probably a pretty widespread desire from "bloggers" for more attribution/better behavior in that respect, from the legacy media.

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:44 AM

MoDo

That Dowd was so blatant in lifting Josh Marshall’s work, word for word, without the expectation that she would get caught shows a basic ignorance of blogosphere that in itself is breathtaking. I don't know how to explain that.

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:45 AM

I read your words all over.

They might substitute words and change things around, but I've read them here first.

Some people are just pigs. Afraid to give credit where credit is due.

O/T More for Ondelette and others (link@sig)

UK Government Lies Exposed; Spy Visited Binyam Mohamed In Morocco

An except:

"What is even more fascinating about this story, however, is the report of Binyam’s relationship with Informant A before his capture, and the fact that other Guantánamo prisoners were also aware of the “mole.”

As Rose described it, Informant A “knew Mohamed in London and helped him plan the fateful journey in the spring of 2001 that took him first to Pakistan, then to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan. After Mohamed had fled the conflict, the mole was wounded fighting alongside Osama Bin Laden in the caves of Tora Bora. Months after that, Mohamed saw Informant A again in Pakistan shortly before both men were separately captured.”"

From Andy Worthington (see! that didn't hurt :)

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:45 AM

They are afraid

The MSM does not only fear competition from the bloggers. IMO, bloggers are pilloried by the MSM precisely because the MSM doesn't want anyone to read them.

Many times it is bloggers (and specifically you Glenn) who expose something that the MSM will not cover at all, rectify omissions, clarify misrepresentations, and shine light on lacks of balance and outright lies.

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:46 AM

The Internet is universal. Is newspaper failure universal as well? Or is it a US phenomenon?

As we know, newspapers in this country are failing at an alarming rate. I personally don't believe it is because of the Internet or parasitic bloggers. I believe it is because they are not giving readers what they need.

So I have a question: Given that the Internet is universal, are newspapers in Europe and elsewhere also suffering the same problems? Are they failing at an alarming rate? I've gotten almost no indications that this is so either from reading their web sites or from accounts Stateside. (I did read in The Independent how they were merging non-editorial operations with another paper but that's about it.)

If newspaper failures are confined to the US then we can dismiss the Internet as a cause and compare the news industries here and elsewhere to help understand the problem better. Has anyone seen such reports or studies?

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:48 AM

There's no way she did NOT copy and paste those sentences

Her lame excuses notwithstanding...

It was a perfect copy--except for the applicable editing. How the hell did she think she'd get away with that? Did she drink and keyboard?

Whew!

Monday, May 18, 2009 06:48 AM

Not too surprising for Lexington

Lexington is probably the Economist's least insightful columnist. He spends most of his time giving form to conventional wisdom (such as America's alleged need to "close the book" on the torture debacle), so it's not too surprising that in addition to mimicking the opinions of others he takes their content as well.

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